President Obama signs $8.7 billion food stamp cut into law

a reply to: NavyDoc

A skiff is a small boat I take to shore....not familiar with the term otherwise.

YW is not the highest level of clearance. The POTUS is not the most important asset in the world.

From Marine grunt to a a presidential Doc, that is one mighty ladder you climbed.

originally posted by: NavyDoc

That you even said that shows that you don't know anything of what you think you know?

A guy on food stamps an "activist" to "fear?" That's funny and pathetic at the same time.

I am going to demand an apology otherwise I will post the coordinates of a facility that load ICBMs on Boomers. Maybe even let the world know when they are loading one up.

I warned you not to underestimate me. I am asking you nicely, no more attacks on my past. It is really upsetting me.

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: NavyDoc

A skiff is a small boat I take to shore....not familiar with the term otherwise.

YW is not the highest level of clearance. The POTUS is not the most important asset in the world.

From Marine grunt to a a presidential Doc, that is one mighty ladder you climbed.

Yep. It took a lot of hard work, study, and dedication.

A "skiff" is a secure place where intel types do classified work. As it is jargon in the community, you couldn't just google it which is why I used it as a question. My first ensign job was div-o at an AT shop and I know what an ATAN knows and has access to in an operational squadron, much less the FRCSE, and brother, you ain't a secret squirrel.

originally posted by: jrod

originally posted by: NavyDoc

That you even said that shows that you don't know anything of what you think you know?

A guy on food stamps an "activist" to "fear?" That's funny and pathetic at the same time.

I am going to demand an apology otherwise I will post the coordinates of a facility that load ICBMs on Boomers. Maybe even let the world know when they are loading one up.

I warned you not to underestimate me. I am asking you nicely, no more attacks on my past. It is really upsetting me.

#. My even 13 year old can google Everett and every other place. We both know you're full of #.

Post it. Right now. At this point if you don't, everybody will see what a fraud you are.

Upsetting you because I have the temerity to suggest you are responsible for your own failures in life? The horror!

I think it is obvious why you are a failure on food stamps, and it isn't the Navy's fault.

originally posted by: NavyDoc


Post it. Right now. At this point if you don't, everybody will see what a fraud you are.

Upsetting you because I have the temerity to suggest you are responsible for your own failures in life? The horror!

I think it is obvious why you are a failure on food stamps, and it isn't the Navy's fault.

Nice try. I know better than to take your bait.

Timing is crucial is these kinds of things. Today is not the time. But I will give a hint, the ol trident basin is one place.

originally posted by: jrod

originally posted by: NavyDoc


Post it. Right now. At this point if you don't, everybody will see what a fraud you are.

Upsetting you because I have the temerity to suggest you are responsible for your own failures in life? The horror!

I think it is obvious why you are a failure on food stamps, and it isn't the Navy's fault.

Nice try. I know better than to take your bait.

Timing is crucial is these kinds of things. Today is not the time. But I will give a hint, the ol trident basin is one place.

Oh, bulk#. A failed ATAN from 6 years ago does not know squat or anything special. Reveal away--there is nothing secret in what you "have."

Heck, anybody can google the trident basin. That not a scary top secret thing you said.

Now that you are backpedalling is exactly what I thought you'd do and it is exactly proof that you got exactly jack and #.

Don't jerk us off--post it! I'll give you a cookie if you do and you won't have to spend a single food stamp if you get it.

a reply to: NavyDoc

You are making the mistake to assume my only real world experience was an AT3 in the US Navy.

Why can't you simply apologize for being a jerk?

I am running out of options. It is as if you want me to join the other side. Clearly you have declared yourself hostile towards me.

I do not want to the USA, the land I remember to be destroyed. Thanks to assholes like you the rest of the world hates US.

Why must you continue to be a jerk and put me down because of my past mistakes?

Do you understand why it is so difficult for me to find meaningful work. No matter where I go I run into a boss(the person who promotes and fires people) who use my past against me just as you and the Chair Force downer have the past 4? pages of this thread.

All I have to say, regardless of my failures in the Navy, my life is good.

I just like to assume people like you are just jealous of what I got and that is why you are so hostile.

Jealous of a guy on food stamps who blames everyone but himself for his own shortcomings?

Your life is good regardless of the navy? But you said that your life stated an "endless spiral" after getting kicked out of the navy. Which is it?

Experience after an AT3? A guy who cannot even feed himself is not going to hold earth shattering information or contacts you are delusional.

You are being criticized, not for a checkers past but for a present where you whine and blame everyone else but yourself for your bad choices and shortcomings. Here is a sincere and honest bit if advice--you will never succeed in life if you do not become introspective, own your own shortcomings, accept responsibility for yourself, work to correct your deficiencies, and stop blaming everyone else for your problems. You rail one about "corporations" being to blame but you tell us it is your own brother that keeps you on "slave wages." Cannot you see the cognitive dissonance in that?

Push you to the other side? Son, you already ARE the other side. You are exactly what TPTB want--a welfare dependent, thoughtless, pathetic, loser who blames "the man" for keeping him down rather than pulling himself up by the bootstraps. You are exactly what they want you to be and your fantasies about being able "to strike the final blow" do not change that. Get a grip on yourself and seek to better yourself.

You are already making excuses for yet another failure to deliver something in your life. Post you stuff-- here, I'll help. The trident basin in Florida, is near Cape Canaveral. It is a base that supports nuke subs. It's coordinates are: 28 degrees 24 minutes 38 seconds north by 80 degrees 35 minutes 20 seconds west.

Too secret plans---go!

a reply to: NavyDoc

Before and after. I was 23 when I shipped off to boot camp with a squeaky clean record and no substance abuse problems. I was over working full time and going to school half time that I was paying for out of pocket.

Lol. You are so easy....

By timing I meant when a sub was in and possibly when they were loading one up. I know better than to do that on here. I'm pretty sure it is against the ToC.

I love my homeland.

Why must you tell me I have to better myself, do you not think I am not trying. Why are you trying to bait me into divulging classified information?

I will stop collected food stamps when I have this thing called an income.

For some weird reason no one wants to hire me, maybe I have a personality disorder.

originally posted by: NavyDoc

Experience after an AT3? A guy who cannot even feed himself is not going to hold earth shattering information or contacts you are delusional.

They kind of look down on slaughtering manatee around here. I bet you did not know there was once a manatee processing plant right about where Space Camp is today off NASA Causeway just south of Titusville. I have no problem feeding myself without food stamps because once I am hungry enough I would have no regard for the law against harvesting wildlife.

Keep trying to make me look like a loser.

a reply to: hammanderr

lets build a pyramid or several pyramid/monuments

send out job applications for the various positions we'll need to fill to build these pyramids or monuments

let's pay a modest wage, and provide temporary housing and services at the buildsite.

thus several pyramid/monuments are built, giving money and jobs to a large number of people who previously did not have a job.

thus those people have money to spend on things, which increases demand for products,

the increase in demand for products creates a demand for labor to keep up with demand for products.

in addition some of these monuments serve a practical purpose, such as roads or dams or etc.

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: NavyDoc

Before and after. I was 23 when I shipped off to boot camp with a squeaky clean record and no substance abuse problems. I was over working full time and going to school half time that I was paying for out of pocket.

Lol. You are so easy....

By timing I meant when a sub was in and possibly when they were loading one up. I know better than to do that on here. I'm pretty sure it is against the ToC.

I love my homeland.

Why must you tell me I have to better myself, do you not think I am not trying. Why are you trying to bait me into divulging classified information?

I will stop collected food stamps when I have this thing called an income.

For some weird reason no one wants to hire me, maybe I have a personality disorder.

edit on 10-9-2014 by jrod because: ATS and similar sites have been used as a honey trap for 'potential terrorist' and other bogeymen.

Everybody who lives there can see the sub come in and tie up on that pier and and cover that hatch with that awning, it's not a secret and people actually go out on the cape to watch it because its cool. There is not deep dark secret in that. What's going onus pretty obvious to the casual observer. I've got picture myself somewhere around here, might try to scan them in.

Because you don't know about subs (why would you, you were only an AT washout) you obviously don't realize that the skipper just doesn't say to himself " man, my missles have been for a while--better pop off to the cape for a swap." No, this is planned years in advanced and published in classified in classified OPORDS. You post THAT in advance, you are a secret squirrel. That you have to wait until a SUB comes in, then you don't know anything more than the local schlubs.

You said youself earlier that you refuse to take a job that you feel beneath the qualifications you deserve. You can stop collecting food stamps tomorrow by foing what most MEN--not whiny boys--do in that situation. Work something they don't like cause it pays the bills a d go back to school to learn a job they like. You are holding you back because of some deep sense of entitlement and narcissism.

After our conversation I can see why nobody would hire you and yes you have an obvious personify disorder.

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: NavyDoc

Before and after. I was 23 when I shipped off to boot camp with a squeaky clean record and no substance abuse problems. I was over working full time and going to school half time that I was paying for out of pocket.

Lol. You are so easy....

By timing I meant when a sub was in and possibly when they were loading one up. I know better than to do that on here. I'm pretty sure it is against the ToC.

I love my homeland.

Why must you tell me I have to better myself, do you not think I am not trying. Why are you trying to bait me into divulging classified information?

I will stop collected food stamps when I have this thing called an income.

For some weird reason no one wants to hire me, maybe I have a personality disorder.

edit on 10-9-2014 by jrod because: ATS and similar sites have been used as a honey trap for 'potential terrorist' and other bogeymen.

Everybody who lives there can see the sub come in and tie up on that pier and and cover that hatch with that awning, it's not a secret and people actually go out on the cape to watch it because its cool. There is not deep dark secret in that. What's going onus pretty obvious to the casual observer. I've got picture myself somewhere around here, might try to scan them in.

Because you don't know about subs (why would you, you were only an AT washout) you obviously don't realize that the skipper just doesn't say to himself " man, my missles have been for a while--better pop off to the cape for a swap." No, this is planned years in advanced and published in classified in classified OPORDS. You post THAT in advance, you are a secret squirrel. That you have to wait until a SUB comes in, then you don't know anything more than the local schlubs.

You said youself earlier that you refuse to take a job that you feel beneath the qualifications you deserve. You can stop collecting food stamps tomorrow by foing what most MEN--not whiny boys--do in that situation. Work something they don't like cause it pays the bills a d go back to school to learn a job they like. You are holding you back because of some deep sense of entitlement and narcissism.

After our conversation I can see why nobody would hire you and yes you have an obvious personify disorder.

I'm not trying to make you look like a loser-- you are doing a fine job of that yourself. With every complaint, every excuse why you "can't", with every addition to your already long list of issues, you make yourself lipgloss like a loser--apathetic one at that..

a reply to: NavyDoc

That is not my way of life.

I said I can't finding meaningful work. That does not mean I don't work. I mean a could live on a boat an spear lobster all day, but lobster just gets old when you eat it on a daily basis.

Ground control to NavyDoc,

There are people who work and are poor enough to qualify for food stamps.

Working full time can barely pay the rent in many places for people like me.

a reply to: NavyDoc

What the hell does this have to do with the OP. IF you and Jrod want to duke it out, create your own thread. Contribute to the topic at hand please.

originally posted by: ArchPlayer
a reply to: NavyDoc

What the hell does this have to do with the OP. IF you and Jrod want to duke it out, create your own thread. Contribute to the topic at hand please.

This is part of the topic at hands. People like him are reasons why we spend so
much on food stamps--abled bodied men who refuse to better themselves. He IS an example of the mess we are in.

a reply to: NavyDoc

Refuse to better myself?

That is an arrogant thing to say.

You make the military look bad. This thread is not about me!

Because of people like me? This is why the economy sucks? This is why our minimum wage is about half of what it is in the rest of the first world?

The only thing the US leads the world in is military spending, corporate welfare, incarcerations, and people who deny evolution/science.

a reply to: NavyDoc

BTW because I have been labeled an addict by your POS Navy, I can not obtain a captain license despite years of sea time.

I am in control of my life not you. Telling me how to live my life is not advice, never will I ever have a normal job, it is not in my nature. I can promise you I am not lazy and quite capable of drowning most of the SPEC OP guys.

My life, I will live it how I choose NOT the way you and the other brainwashed souls tell me to.

Where have I said I have refused to work. Being unable to hold a steady job is NOT the same as refusing to work.

I wish you were my OIC when I was in, I can assure you I gladly taken the punishment to bait you into a fight, you are the kind of hot head who would fall for it and be charged with Conduct Unbecoming.

a reply to: NavyDoc

My Div O, a CWO5 did not have access to the COMSEC vault in 61D. Only a handful of guys were on the last, just one officer, higher up the chain than the Div O. Nothing special in there, just a bunch of gear that should be in a museum. However I think they still may use the KG-40.

I think it is obvious why you are a failure on food stamps, and it isn't the Navy's fault.

Way to represent the Navy.

I am a failure, you said it. There is about 5 pages now of you and the other guy trying to hammer home how much of a failure I am. Like I said, I am lucky my life is good. All you guys have done is make assumptions based on scanty evidence. I set you up for a good one if you want to continue the personal attacks.

For those of us who have been caught breaking the law(do not try to pretend you never drove drunk NavyDoc) the consequences are often a huge cut in our potential wages.

There are millions with records like me who can not find steady work.

I can promise that you have NO clue what it feels like to be depressed, hungry, and desperate.

Like I said, I am fortunate enough to understand why people snap. People like you probably love provoking people like me in some sadistic way.

And to think, you think I am disturbed...

originally posted by: Aazadan


I'm not talking about programming I'm just using it to quantify the terms as that's how I think and you seemed like you could understand the statement. Guess not.

Oh, I understand it. It is just a fake and good feeling way of going about life.
Basically, even starts out by getting a trophy, and then you work your way up from there….well, I didn’t mean work. You are given other medals along the way to about 30, then bitch about those getting the bright shiny medals and get brought into the 40s by people like Sharpton and such.

originally posted by: Aazadan
Their skill set is worth nothing, every job with the possible exception of order taker (and only because speech recognition software is error prone) is a zero skill position. They are not paid for skills, they are paid to push a button. Despite that, if the business is offering the position it needs to be enough for the person to live. If the business doesn't offer atleast that much in wages the taxpayers have to make up the difference. That's called a corporate subsidy.

I guess for jobs you are doing, skill is not required….hmmm, guess that is why that position doesn’t have the high wage.
And no, a business does not HAVE to pay someone enough to live. That is not the responsibility of the business.

originally posted by: Aazadan
That's one of the points of public transportation. There are others like alleviating traffic congestion but the main point is to ensure people are able to travel for work. It's an investment in the economy.

Investment huh…thought Govt wasn’t supposed to be run like a business.
And no, the Govt is not there to “invest” into anything. The Federal Govt has a short list of things it is allowed to do. I suggest you go and research that.

originally posted by: Aazadan
You really do like to label things Progressive and Alinksy.

Hey, I call it as it is.

originally posted by: Aazadan
Maybe you should try looking at things for what they rather than as what you want them to be. As to the point, would you do the work for free? If you're not willing to do the work for free then yes you're deliberately making someones business (and the community as a whole) worse off because you want something.

WOW…this is by far the worst attempt at painting me, or anyone into a bastardized corner.
So, do I work for free??? Nope.
Does the business have to hire me?? Nope.
Your logic is a failure.

originally posted by: Aazadan
And no, I wouldn't riot, loot, or protest. You see I actually like doing work that involves my skillset. A couple months back I built a database/populated for a guy, then made him a website, and PoS system. He paid me considerably less than it was worth, we agreed to an amount and signed a contract. In the end he gave me 1/20 the agreed upon amount stating he changed his mind about paying me. At that point I could have refused to hand over the work but what does that accomplish? It makes the local business community worse by not having that service.

So, you provided a service, for less then what you agreed upon… and that means what to me?? Other than you are a poor business owner. No wonder you are where you are.

originally posted by: Aazadan
My experience is poor for sure. I'm not completely devoid of experience but job opportunities are tough to come across in this area.

So, you are paid, or not paid, for the lack of experience. Not my problem….all on you.

originally posted by: Aazadan
And I'm making those, or what should be those. No debt and getting an education. An education doesn't mean a whole lot though when there's no where to work, and it's real easy to see the choice as a poor one when you're rationing out ramen packets to last for a months worth of meals.

That’s because you live where the jobs are not.
Again, you made a choice with Pros and Conns. Time to live with your decision.

originally posted by: Aazadan
I'm not the one that needs to look into those terms. Slavery is more than just the physical ownership of a human.

You have got to be kidding….
I truly can’t offer anything else except “you have got to be kidding”.

originally posted by: Aazadan
Well, he wanted an education. Then found out that he doesn't have the right personality for college. A literal lifetime of debt repayments is way too much for a year of tuition.

Choices made……..and outcomes happen. I guess the Big Boy time has gone with him.

originally posted by: Aazadan
Buying votes from who? The majority of states that are net recipients of tax dollars are red states. Last I checked those aren't the people making these programs.

So, now you state willfully that politicians don’t pander to their voting base, with handout promises and such..
And both Dems and Reps do this. It is the result of Progressives infecting the Govt.

originally posted by: Aazadan
No need in the present doesn't mean no need in the future, and some things are very difficult to monetize. For example a drug that treats an illness with 20 cases annually.

Yep, gotta love those excuses for bigger Govt.

originally posted by: Aazadan
Because 15% is too low, we've seen from the Laffer Curve historically that 70% is too high and that 35% is too low, Reagan showed both of those quite successfully. I would split the difference at 52% and determine from there, essentially using a binary search every 2 years in order to find the appropriate rate.

SO, 52% is what everyone should pay in taxes??? Okay, so Socialist or Communist comes to mind, but the Progressive statement still stands.

originally posted by: Aazadan
That's if I were going to use an income tax. My preferred method would be to eliminate the income tax entirely and put a 1% tax on all Wall Street transactions followed by a good deal of protectionism (companies must be on our exchanges to sell here if public) to keep businesses from leaving our stock exchanges. The estimates I've read have said this would generate $16 trillion in revenue annually, so in theory that tax rate could even be reduced a good bit while still funding the government.

So, more Progressive based ideals that grant the Govt the ability to FORCE people to do more of what those in Govt want.
Brilliant. I guess you also wiped your ass with the Constitution and BoR after your daily bowl movement.

originally posted by: Aazadan
No problem, you didn't ask for something more indepth.

Sure sure. I guess Google results for something more in-depth would require more time on your part.