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Hackers exposed conversations between Kiev officials - about the downed July 17 Boeing

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posted on Aug, 14 2014 @ 02:57 PM
“KiberBerkut” hacked the facebook account of Kolomoisky and the minister of defence of Uckraine Valery Geletey

and this is what he found (as he claims)... Bellow is the chat between them and I will also provide links from my country, to read further and also watch pictures from within their accounts.

19.07.2014 09:15 Анатолій Гриценко Слава! Якого чорта?! Що ви суки накоїли? Як можна було викласти це відео за добу до проведення операції???!!! Ти розумієш, що «рашисти» його вже передали на експертизу, та запросили з Ютюба дату першого завантаження???

Slava! What the hell ?! What are you bitches done? How anyone could upload this video a day before the operation ??? [MH-17 provocation] !!! You know perfectly well that russians employed experts, and requested from youtube date of the first upload ???

19.07.2014 09:17 Анатолій Гриценко А ці придурки, які були за пультом в Харкові? У ВАС ТАМ ПАМ’ЯТЬ ПОВІДШИБАЛО?! Я не розумію як так їх ловлять наші хлопці на кордоні з Кримом, хоча їх повинні були відразу затримати саме ваші люди??? Я бачу, ви з Шефом зовсім прихуїли у своєму Дніпрожидовську!!! Петро вас розірве!!!! Я САМ ВАС РОЗІРВУ!!!

And those assholes at the comand center in Kharkov? [Air Defence control center in Kharkov, Ukraine] ARE YOU LOST YOUR FRACKING BRAINS? I don’t understand, how they got cought on the border with Crimea? It was your people??? I see you and your chief [Kolomoyskiy] totally screwed up in your Dneprojewsk !!! Peter will flay you all alive !!!! Screw that, I’ll do it myself !!!

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posted on Aug, 14 2014 @ 03:02 PM
a reply to: Ploutonas
Linking to GLP?

posted on Aug, 14 2014 @ 03:03 PM
there's also a link that says Malaysia itself has proof positive that Ukraine Aircraft fired an air-to-air missile, then used cannon fire to the cockpit from both the Port & Starboard sides to destroy the aircraft in mid as to try to cover up the jet fired missile

google it... I do think it is in the steve list of interesting news
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posted on Aug, 14 2014 @ 03:05 PM
the source is not GLP, a user posted it there, i just tried to give you something english, because the other link is greek... I will give you more if u wish...

edit : I added more links
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posted on Aug, 14 2014 @ 03:10 PM
a reply to: Ploutonas

You might want to drop the GLP link though...There is not a good historic relationship here with that site.
Just saying.

posted on Aug, 14 2014 @ 03:15 PM
a reply to: butcherguy

ok i did

posted on Aug, 14 2014 @ 03:16 PM
a reply to: St Udio

Of course they did. Because a 30mm canon leaves little tiny holes like that.

posted on Aug, 14 2014 @ 03:41 PM
As for the video posted 1 day earlier, I think they speak about the video conversation with the " greek" if you remember, claiming that these are the terrorists and stolen cell phone conversations... It was news at that time, that this video was posted 24h before the actual event!

They released it on Youtube and removed it 30 minutes after, but 800 people already saw it and downloaded it.

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posted on Aug, 14 2014 @ 03:42 PM
Obvious Russian propaganda is obvious.

I like this one:

Let me remind you about your bos’s promise to provide me with copies of the scripts for the media reports. In the morning, with your dayly report do send me those scripts and prepared videos.

Suuuure, and they discussed this all on an facebook. How nice of them to converse in such blatant conspiratorial tones, too.

BTW Ploutonas, hackers have also hacked your email account, and this is what they found:

19.07.2014 09:15 Ploutonas, upload propagandist post to ATS now! Signed, Vladimir Putin.

14.07.2014 20:47 Da, Tsar Putin! Propagandist post has been made! Signed, Ploutonas.

See how easy that was?

posted on Aug, 14 2014 @ 03:44 PM
a reply to: Zaphod58

Юрій Береза
Передали, что не смог долго удерживаться там, типа высоко. Сделал один прямым. Не проканало. Тогда пришлось воздухом.
[Pilot] reported that he could not keep plane so high for a long time. Made one straight [cannon salvo]. Didn’t worked. Then had to use air to air [missile].

You were one of the guys constantly bringing up the fact that an SU25 couldn't maintain the same altitude as a 777 right? Interesting how this 'new information' both validates what you were saying , yet at the same time further incriminates the Ukraine gov. Deff. not a smoking gun, as this 'evidence' holds only about as much weight as the other social media postings which incriminated the separatists.

posted on Aug, 14 2014 @ 03:46 PM
a reply to: St Udio

I was just reading a report by Peter Haisenko, an experienced pilot, which give a good analisis of what likely happened to Flight 17.

In sifting through the available images one thing stands out: All wreckage of the sections behind the cockpit are largely intact, except for the fact that only fragments of the aircraft remained . Only the cockpit part shows these peculiar marks of destruction. This leaves the examiner with an important clue. This aircraft was not hit by a missile in the central portion. The destruction is limited to the cockpit area. Now you have to factor in that this part is constructed of specially reinforced material. This is on account of the nose of any aircraft having to withstand the impact of a large bird at high speeds. You can see in the photo, that in this area significantly stronger aluminum alloys were being installed than in the remainder of the outer skin of the fuselage. One remembers the crash of Pan Am over Lockerbie. It was a large segment of the cockpit that due to the special architecture survived the crash in one piece. In the case of flight MH 017 it becomes abundantly clear that there also an explosion took place inside the aircraft

He also directs us to a video :

Which shows some damning evidence of a "shoot down" from another craft.

posted on Aug, 14 2014 @ 03:47 PM
you can also watch the pictures, the link I gave from Katohika if you scroll it down, it has all the screen captures with the actual conversations.
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posted on Aug, 14 2014 @ 04:06 PM
a reply to: Ploutonas

Proves nothing. A simple tool like Greasemonkey allows online editing/modification of web pages for personal display, or can run your own scripts to a web page (like a chat function) that can be made to appear however the "hacker" would want, the end result being that everything shown in the OP link could easily be faked.

posted on Aug, 14 2014 @ 04:09 PM
a reply to: SUBKONCIOUS

Except there's no way an R-60 did that.

posted on Aug, 14 2014 @ 04:13 PM
a reply to: teamcommander

He's an idiot. The nose is no stronger than the rest of the plane. You can find pictures all over of commercial aircraft with holes in the nose after a bird hit.

posted on Aug, 14 2014 @ 04:14 PM
I find it interesting how social media suddenly counts as evidence. All this time we've been told by the pro-rebels that social media isn't evidence of anything but suddenly, when it supports an anti-Ukraine slant, it's suddenly reliable. So if this "hacking" is legitimate does that mean the rebel's postings on social media about shooting down a plane are also legitimate?

posted on Aug, 14 2014 @ 04:22 PM
we could gather all facts and news and evidence they provide us up to date and the truth easily pops out.

1) Kiev 30 seconds after the Boeing crashed (30 SECONDS!) they made an announcement that Russia did it.. lol (its like, the one who smells the fart first, is the one who farted), not even a minute, 30 seconds. How they saw it, they have huge binoculars for big distances, how many miles is Donensk to Kiev!!! Very expensive binoculars.

2) Kiev didnt allowed the specialists to investigate, they even bombard the area with the aircraft!! (do you have that in your news?)

3) what happened and the boeing matter is already forgotten... its a failed false flag...

Who tried to take advantage over it but it failed...? Who didnt have any gains of doing it? So I have many reasons to believe that this is a true conversation. And I wonder, how is it possible people like this, consume food, air and water on this earth. I feel so sad for the people who took that airplane, because other people the previews day, created videos about their death, created media scripts and all the rest. These are real psychopaths.
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posted on Aug, 14 2014 @ 05:23 PM
This collage of MH17 is very telling. It seems also that the bullets could be of an explosive/shrapnel type.

posted on Aug, 14 2014 @ 05:27 PM
a reply to: smurfy

Except Russian built fighters, including Ukrainian ones, use a 30mm gun.

How does this bullet leave such tiny holes?
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posted on Aug, 14 2014 @ 05:39 PM

Who was in the business of shooting down aircraft and shoot down many Ukrainian aircraft just a week before in the region?

Who openly admitted shooting it down then retracted there statement

As far as I know the DNR doesn't have aircraft

It's ok Putin, it was a mistake

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