Is Ebola an Airborne Virus

A study conducted in 2012 showed that Ebola was able to travel between pigs and monkeys that were in separate cages and were never placed in direct contact.

Though the method of transmission in the study was not officially determined, one of the scientists involved, Dr. Gary Kobinger, from the National Microbiology Laboratory at the Public Health Agency of Canada, told BBC News that he believed that the infection was spread through large droplets that were suspended in the air.
"What we suspect is happening is large droplets; they can stay in the air, but not long; they don't go far," he explained. "But they can be absorbed in the airway, and this is how the infection starts, and this is what we think, because we saw a lot of evidence in the lungs of the non-human primates that the virus got in that way."

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What you haven't been told:

a reply to: glend

Wrong strain.

The strain in the patent is Bundibugyo and the current outbreak strain is Zaire.

a reply to: AlphaHawk

Thank you, wasn't aware it was different strain

I have removed content of patent of ebola as it was different strain (thanks AlphaHawk) so subject and content now relates to question if Ebola is an airborne virus or not

a reply to: glend

I was not aware of the different strains, but if this disease could spread like measles (airborne) we would have millions of infected and dead people.

So don't panic. Yet.

Obama Signs Executive Order to Detain Americans With ‘Respiratory Illnesses’...

The executive order, titled Revised List of Quarantinable Communicable Diseases, amends executive order 13295, passed by George W. Bush in April 2003, which allows for the, “apprehension, detention, or conditional release of individuals to prevent the introduction, transmission, or spread of suspected communicable diseases.”

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Good switch, and more relevant to the current situation anyway. The fact that most viruses and many other types of infections can move through the air in the right conditions is being downplayed by the ones that are trying to treat people with this disease. They haul patients to different places saying it is safe when in fact the only place it is really safe is in their minds.

The CDC has just issued an "Interim Guidance about Ebola Virus Infection for Airline Flight Crews, Cleaning Personnel, and Cargo Personnel"
The guide is heavily directed at preventing Airborne Transmission within Aircraft.

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Hope these are just safety measures rather than a sign that it is airborne.

a reply to: glend

Ebola Reston (spelling?) is named after the strain that infected a bunch of research monkeys that were imported to Reston Virginia. They were infecting each other across the room from cages and the reason for this was unproven but one of the theories was monkeys are good at spitting and hurling crap.

Monkey see, monkey do.

From memory in the book The Hot Zone, by Richard Preston.

a reply to: glend

Dude, Already Posted Some Time Ago.

Ebola - What Your Not Being Told

a reply to: SirKonstantin

********Mods******* delete thread please.

a reply to: intrptr

But it also traveled to other rooms that different groups of monkeys were in,in that book as well.
All those interviewed for the book that had worked with the different strains of Ebola all concurred, Ebola can adapt and quickly,and liked lung tissue. The lungs of the monkeys were full of Ebola and they were breathing the stuff out.

a reply to: Dimithae

Ahh, thank you I had forgotten that. So it mutated to airborne, then?

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a reply to: Dimithae

Ahh, thank you I had forgotten that. So it mutated to airborne, then?

Yes, she did. It started as Ebola Zaire coming into the U.S. from infected monkeys imported from the Philippines. However, that one freak mutation at that facility also made it non-lethal in humans. It stayed lethal to the monkeys, and one worker in that facility did contract the Ebola Reston strain, but it that airborne mutation only caused flu-like symptoms in the human host at that point. That is why it is its own strain, and named "Ebola Reston".

It's called dodging a bullet.

a reply to: Krakatoa

It's called dodging a bullet.

Great to hear from others who have read "The Hot Zone".

That chapter in the book about the Monkey House down the street from the Capitol was particularly disturbing.

Loved the transfer of dead monkeys in garbage sacs at the gas station, the knock down of all those monkeys, the escaped ones that could bite through Tivek suits, and finally the disinfecting of the building and "sealing" it from further use. I wonder if that building is still there, uninhabited?

Like the mail sorting facilities during the post 911 Anthrax letter incident, they can never be sure if they kill all the germs in a building.

I bet they are for lease, though… derp.

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Krakatoa

It's called dodging a bullet.

... and finally the disinfecting of the building and "sealing" it from further use. I wonder if that building is still there, uninhabited?

The building was abandoned for about 6 years before being leveled and the remains carted away. Then, a child care center was built there, which, is still there to this day...and open for business.

This won't be popular, but I suspect that each person who has expressed the ebola consciousness was injected with a vaccine for some other issue. If you track back I would be willing to bet a lot of money each person was vaccinated within the last ten years and their system was so weak it expressed the ailment put into them.

Yes, it is, OP!!!

Ebola 'moving faster than efforts to control it': WHO

"It is taking place in areas with fluid population movements over porous borders, and it has demonstrated its ability to spread via air travel, contrary to what has been seen in past outbreaks,"

Airborne could mean two different processes.

The virus could "live' dormantly until ensconced in body fluid

Or the virus could become more able to "live" in small microscopic fluid droplets outside of a living host.

Either could happen in one mutation, theoretically.

Those who know the virus might know a reason why a quick mutation is extra unlikely or more likely.

A nuclear blast might be used to quarantine a mutation of the first type. Good public relations for nukes.

a reply to: glend

These viruses have been with us for quite sometime now and yet humanity is not only still here we are multiplying at an exponential rate. I imagine it will take rather more than an airborne version of the Ebola strain to put any kind of significant dent in our numbers. Humanity is just too good at adapting and surviving, its kind of our thing!

why worry about being airborne or not if it is more infectious than any airborne epidemic ever existed.

airborne means cough droplets land virus on surface that others touch and then move the virus to their bodily orifices.
Airborne could also bring the droplet directly to the other person. airborne droplets can be as small as 0.2 micron. a micron is the size of a small germ. a 0.2 micron droplets can contain 1000 viruses because viruses are much smaller than germs.

people infected with some diseases end up coughing. but also normal people cough, even ebola patients cough.

No smaller than0.2 micron detected because you need an atomic microscope for things smaller than that. so droplets smaller than 0.2 micron are not denied existance, but most probabl;y exist.

they also so light weight that not only cough is reguired to make them fly and suspend in air, turning book papers can do lift small droplets.
once such droplets are suspended they are so light weight that they could last hours mid air, but even much more than than if there was air movement. Opening a door to a patient room and closing it will probably move a one cubic meter of air down the hallway.

only 50% of airborne responsible of flue transmissibility. the other half by direct contact like exchanging money.

many presumed non airborne are much more infectious (contageous) than most airborne agents. so not being airborne does not bring relief, just a perception of it.