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originally posted by: adjensen
As many of you know, I am a Protestant-leaning Catholic, so I still dabble a bit in the Solas.
I came across a question on a Traditionalist Catholic blog this morning, though, that has me scratching my head.
If a person is saved solely through their belief in Christ, does that mean that Satanists will be saved? They believe in God, they just don't like him very much.
originally posted by: adjensen
As many of you know, I am a Protestant-leaning Catholic, so I still dabble a bit in the Solas.
I came across a question on a Traditionalist Catholic blog this morning, though, that has me scratching my head.
If a person is saved solely through their belief in Christ, does that mean that Satanists will be saved? They believe in God, they just don't like him very much.
originally posted by: DISRAELI
The same argument applies when James makes the same point about demons.
ch2v19 attacks the merely spoken Faith from a different angle.
Merely believing in the one God is not enough; even the demons know that, and it doesn’t do them any good.
But merely “believing that God exists” would not be an adequate definition of saving Faith anywhere else in the New Testament, either.
Admittedly Hebrews ch11 v6 says “Whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists”, but even in Hebrews this is only the beginning.
The essential ingredient of the word Faith is trust, as that chapter of Hebrews is demonstrating, and this trust in God is what the demons cannot experience.
But New Testament Faith is about a lot more than "believing God exists". It is about committing oneself to God in trust, which the Satanist obviously cannot do.
There does not seem to be salvation provided for fallen Angels or for demons, what ever kind of a being they might be
So what happens to the humble Satanist who volunteers at the soup kitchen every weekend?
But they would probably still distinguish between "saving faith" and merely "believing that God exists"
originally posted by: Tucket
originally posted by: adjensen
As many of you know, I am a Protestant-leaning Catholic, so I still dabble a bit in the Solas.
I came across a question on a Traditionalist Catholic blog this morning, though, that has me scratching my head.
If a person is saved solely through their belief in Christ, does that mean that Satanists will be saved? They believe in God, they just don't like him very much.
Are you sure Satanists believe in God? I watched a vid with Anton LaVeys daughter here on ATS once and she said that Satanists only believe in Satan and God as archetypes.
I don't understand how anyone can get "faith alone" from the gospels… or anything outside of Pauls writing in the NT
I would say the so called "Satanist" that is humble and giving all his life has a better chance at "salvation" then the Christian who turns his back on others in need
Catholics believe that works play a part in salvation, so they are required, while Protestants believe that works demonstrate salvation, so they are required.
I'd say that they're both boned -- the Satanist for declaring himself an enemy of God, and the Christian for declaring himself the enemy of his neighbour.