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On the home front, the liberal patriots argued that the way to ensure genuine and lasting solidarity was not to intimidate immigrants and political dissenters but to demonstrate the salience of the nation-state--i.e., the federal government--to the well-being of all Americans: E Pluribus Unum meet Quid Pro Quo. The liberal patriots were not jealous sentinels of the people's hearts. They did not regard local loyalties (whether ethnic, racial, regional, or religious) as anathema to national loyalty, or national loyalty, in turn, as inimical to global allegiances. Citizens first learn about loyalty at the local level, they recognized; without local education in obligation, national loyalty would be impossible.
Originally posted by keholmes
i know what you are driving at and yes there is a better alternative, but at least the reps deserve a little credit.
Originally posted by Amuk
Not trying to be an ass but what exactly should I be giving them credit for?
Originally posted by Kidfinger
Originally posted by Amuk
Not trying to be an ass but what exactly should I be giving them credit for?
Well, they got us the oil..er..um Saddam, and elections MIGHT be held in January in Iraq......maybe.
Originally posted by Carseller4
Well if we do get some oil out of the deal we deserve it. Better than France, Germany and Russia getting bribed to stay out of Iraq for OIL!
Originally posted by Amuk
For what? Name me ONE time they shrank the Government?
full nuclear testing, without much thought. I�m pretty sure there are a few more.
Originally posted by Amuk
I will give you an easier one name me ONE wasteful program they have gotten rid of?
agreed, case in point �no child left behind� legislation that any democrat would have crowed about till the end of time. I�m not sure if education spending has ever been raised that fast�.however according to libs not high enough.
Originally posted by Amuk
�����. The Democrats almost look good except that they aren't fighting them in the name of freedom, if these same laws were coming from a Democratic administration they would line up to pass them. The only reason they are against them is because they are from Bush.
Originally posted by keholmes
As for you�re the corporate welfare argument I think your making�.I�m sorry you have bought into a democrat argument. The argument goes something like this �identify something/one most will agree is evil (largely cause it isn�t them) and then say that taxes should be increased on this evil entity to save us all.
Originally posted by keholmes
As for you�re the corporate welfare argument I think your making�.I�m sorry you have bought into a democrat argument.
[Again, Amuk I agree neither is IMO close to the answer, however the reps (and demos like JFK) should be encouraged. However, you�re dead on that both should be replaced.
Originally posted by Amuk
I don't think either group "hates" America they both just have different ideas on where we go from here.