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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
So you have no evidence and ignore the fact I proved your scenario is 100% impossible.
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
originally posted by: victor7
a reply to: OccamsRazor04
Great now prove it. The "proof" the other poster offered is not only not proof, it's accepted as false by all parties involved.
No use trying to make a case or proving anything. Those things are for the post war peace times.
Real focus should be to getting heavy weapons and more muscle to the rebels on the front. If Donetsk falls, Putin's move for DPR is pretty much done and dusted. I am sure he is not stupid to sit idle and provide only little help.
Hilarious. You bitch about Western meddling and love it when Putin does it. Sorry the good guys won. Bye.
Saw this clip of Donetsk airport fight. Rebels were armed with just Ak-47 assault rifles. They were being bombed by planes and helicopters and most probably had to face tanks later on. Not even elite special forces can withstand such inferior weapons match up. 33 rebels were killed in that single day fight. Who are these brave selfless soldiers willing to fight a whole army with only AKs.
Proof, is that the rebels weren't ready for it ... the event caused traumatisation, and they were schocked, which caused them to be taken by surprise and lose position.
Iff putin would do a retaliation, and take back the territories and create a "ward off" zone. We'd be back at "maybe putin" did it.
why there are no reports about what russian people think about all this or at least equal presentation of both sides.
originally posted by: bjarneorn
proof ... a lot of nonsense and propaganda isn't proof.
Proof, is that Ukraine took at advantage of a tragedy. And the fact is, they were in the ready in advance to take advantage of it.
Proof, is that the rebels weren't ready for it ... the event caused traumatisation, and they were schocked, which caused them to be taken by surprise and lose position.
Cause and effect is the nature of the Universe. It's the basis for all math, all logic and all science.
Where you have the effect ... you can deduct the cause.
This is what passes for Diplomacy these days from our State Dept - stupid Twitter hashtags...
a reply to: superfly4ever
Russia is a country that is thinking in the long run so anything I see shouldn't be considered anything other than a small chess move. I am sure Kremlin has enough smart people as advisers to make silly mistakes... Russia is in no hurry... but US and Europe is.
A Malaysian Airlines spokesman has already confirmed that, for some unknown reason, Kiev-based Ukrainian Air Traffic Control (ATC) ordered MH17 off of its original flight path along the international air route, known as L980.
"The flight path taken by MH17 was approved by the International Civil Aviation Organization and by the countries whose airspace the route passed through,” said Liow Tiong Lai at a news conference in Kuala Lumpur on Friday. “Fifteen out of 16 airlines in the Assn. of Asia Pacific Airlines fly this route over Ukraine.”
Liow -- who said that Malaysia Airlines would send a team of 62 to Kiev to assist with the post-crash efforts -- added that there had been “no last-minute instructions” to change the flight plan and called for an independent investigation into the incident.
Malaysia Airlines joined Liow in defending its use of the route over Ukraine, saying in a statement Friday that the flight plan had been approved by Eurocontrol, the air navigation service provider responsible for determining flight paths over Europe.
The airlines said that the course taken by the plane was a common one and that another flight from a different airliner was on the same route at the time of the MH17 crash in the region of Donetsk near the Russian border.
originally posted by: Xcathdra
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U.S.: Satellite Imagery Shows Russians Shelling Eastern Ukraine
A thread by Demus.
The US released satellite images showing the artillery strikes.
Russian citizens are only allowed to view what the Kremlin allow them to see, which is the one sided Ukraine government is all Nazi facists that only want to do harm to Russian citizens in Ukraine.
But then why would the Russian government want it's citizens to know what they are doing in Ukraine as that would not bode well for Putin and his cronies.
One member of the assembled press, humorously, asked if there was “a YouTube video or something that you can point us to,” calling back to Harf’s regular use of social media as “proof” for her claims.
Harf declared “I just said I wasn’t going to give you the underlying source,” and asked if the press preferred she keep things to herself that she can’t prove. This led to another exchange, with someone shooting back “Marie, I think that it would be best for all concerned here if when you make an allegation like that, you’re able to back it up with something more than just “because I said so.”
Be careful.
U.S. is on a DANGEROUS TYRANNICAL path that as of now. . . Which equates very similiar to your Avatar.
. . . An crazed out clown stepping on skulls holding an 'rpg' (?) with a tattered U.S. flag.
Look at that Xcath. .
The Ukie military (via U.S. backed govt) have probably been killing more civilians than separatists who don't want any part w/ this Neo-Nazi party nor NATO dreams.