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originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: darkbake
This is utterly disgraceful.
Why would they wish to destroy such a site? What are they going to do next, nuke Mecca?
Destroying the Kabba (spelling?) in Mecca is on their wish list. Doesn't sound like they would have any support left if they continue to check things off their list. Who would be supporting them then? It would be most revealing to see who is actually supporting them if they were to succeed.
"By Allah's leave our sheikh al-Baghdadi led Mecca stone for those who worship (pilgrims) will kill you and God ' I will tear down the Ka'ba, the place of worship,” the alleged ISIS militant said on the social media site, according to reports from Turkish media adding that those of the Islamic faith should not be worshipping 'stones.'"
ISIS' beef with Mecca seems to be that Muslims have lost touch with the true meaning of their faith, according to the threat.
“People are going to Mecca to touch the stones, not for God,” reads another tweet from the same account. “I swear to God, if you conquer Saudi Arabia as we worship, none but Allah will demolish the Ka'ba.”
originally posted by: jhn7537
Is it fair to make the comparison of ISIS to the Nazi party? Obviously didn't parts of the world, but both groups had hopes of dominant take over of the region, killing off anyone who wasn't like you, ruthless with enemies, and causing lots of destructive fear throughout the region... I think it's time for ISIS to be taken down before they cause more destruction and pain in the region..
originally posted by: Fylgje
a reply to: glend
You know, I done some research a while back to try and determine just who ISIS is and what their goal is....and I came to the same conclusion that you have. They seem like a group put together by the US and Israel just to drum up hate against muslims. If that's the case then it is absolutely sickening.
originally posted by: Djarums
This is sad.
The mosques and churches in Iraq are so old. They have relics in them that are so historic.
Even to those who are not people of any faith, they are a glimpse into our past as humans.
To see them destroyed like this is really a tragedy.
It reminds me of the Buddhas of Bamiyan.
Horrible.
originally posted by: glend
a reply to: Stormdancer777
The US also denied secretly financing the Taliban (though pakistani intelligence ) until 10 years later when Brzezinski spilled the beans. The US will obviously deny financing of ISIS too. But ISIS is definitely a vehicle of US, its purpose is try to destroy all Islam states and try start wars between sunni and shiite. US has started WW3.
As for the statues, all abramic religions shouldn't follow idols because of the ten commandments "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image" but the statues have been safe in Muslums hands for 1300 years (before Brzezinski Taliban) because of Surah 109.
originally posted by: zatara
ISIS Blows up Jonah's Tomb in Iraq
An other example that retards are at work. Absolute no sense of historical value or respect for the belief system of other human-beings.
originally posted by: sepermeru
This is not accurate, I'm afraid. No Muslim is religiously obligated to stop the "People of the Book" from doing their thing. It is expressly and frequently forbidden. Islam is a bit like Judaism in that we have obligations different from other faiths. The Western Christian model tends to view religious matters as being important to impress on everyone, but Islam is concerned with what Muslims do.
"Idolatry" doesn't apply if nobody thinks the place itself is God or is like God, anyway. So even attacking the masjid is really, really strange. Decoration, art, beauty, all this is perfectly Islamic and always has been. God tells Muslims to appreciate and enjoy the beauties of the world, to make prayer beautiful in remembrance of the bounties of the world, and just don't start thinking these are what's really important, so adornment, architecture, precious metals and gems -- none of that is considered idolatrous.
originally posted by: igor_ats
I bet they never touch anything that has money coming in from tourism like the Sphynx and pyramids.
originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Aazadan
Well surely then, if these artefacts are not necessary because they merely back up the word of the Qu'ran, then neither are the reams of 7.62 ammunition ISIS have expended, the murders they have committed in the name of their faith, the territories they have taken, or the laws they are instituting in those territories!?
I find their particular thought processes in this specific regard, utterly beyond reasonable examination.
originally posted by: demus
originally posted by: Djarums
The mosques and churches in Iraq are so old. They have relics in them that are so historic.
somebody mentioned it in another topic and I must admit it crosses my mind (more often lately):
are they looking for something in the Middle East?
are they trying to find and keep or find and destroy something?
what if all the mess in the Middle East is not only about the oil, currency, stocks, arms...?
what if there are more mysterious reasons for causing all the destruction and unrest?
(by "they" I'm not referring to ISIS)