Isis orders women of Mosul to undergo genital mutilation

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
also
en.wikipedia.org...
UK: The Crisis of Female Genital Mutilation

FGM has emerged as a major problem in Europe due to mass immigration. The European Parliament estimates that 500,000 girls and women in the European Union are living with FGM, and every year another 180,000 girls in Europe are at risk of being "cut."

Britain has the highest levels of FGM in Europe. According to a government-funded study published in 2007, at least 66,000 women and girls in Britain have had the procedure performed on them, and more than 20,000 girls under the age of 15 are currently at risk.

These figures, however, may be only the tip of the iceberg. A 2011 Department of Health policy paper warns that "it is possible that, due to population growth and immigration from practicing countries…FGM is significantly more prevalent than these figures suggest."

FGM is thought to be common in Britain among immigrant groups from Egypt, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gambia, Indonesia, Iraq, Kenya, Kurdistan, Liberia, Mali, Nigeria, Northern Sudan, Pakistan, Sierra Leone, Somalia and Yemen.

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This is what I really don't get, they flee the oppression and brutality in their own countries, then re-create the exact same hell-hole conditions in their immigrant communities. They don't have to do it here, it's illegal, the law gives them protection from this mutilation if they want it, and even if they don't want it. But instead they perpetuate the same living hell they fled from, and it's all done in secret to avoid prosecution.

Why bother coming here and risk their liberty if they're caught doing this, why not stay put where FGM is not a crime?

I don't get it.

It's done for health reasons but let's not get caught up in all that. Guys can still come foreskin or not. a reply to: Toadmund

originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
In a way yes. This is done to girls 13 years old of course not really because where could they go if they wanted to refuse? They are indoctrinated to believe this is what God wants . It's what husband's want. A woman who couldn't ever say they were bad lover's because they never know the difference if you never have an orgasm to start with. . A woman who wouldn't cheat on them. a reply to: boymonkey74

But, has anybody asked what the victim, er woman wants?

Her saviour would be in the form of an atheist, saved by the power of non-god.

What? Self control is self control. And premature ejaculation diminishes with experience. Ask men in their thirties and forties. a reply to: Snarl

a reply to: Snarl

Humm, I been married for 33 years to a circumcised man, we never have any problem in that "department", so perhaps is no on all males.

Still "we broke it we owned" Iraq is US responsibility regardless of opinion and the present administration has done nothing to stop the invasion and infestation of Iraq by terrorist groups after been "liberated" or that is what we call the US bush invasion and extermination of Saddam.

Obama seems to just handle the Iraqi nation in a silver platter to Isis.

So I guess women rights and freedom was nothing but an excuse under Bush.

edit on 24-7-2014 by marg6043 because: (no reason given)

originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
It's done for health reasons but let's not get caught up in all that. Guys can still come foreskin or not. a reply to: Toadmund

'Health reasons' that's the official semi-secular excuse.

Good thing I have no foreskin then, I'd have one foot in the grave by now.

A star for you too. It's got to be done one step at a time. Today's social media will really start the snowballing. In this search for equality as women we know it's always going to be an uphill battle but if we never start it will never happen. Small voices in large numbers. Maybe the women of ATS can start a campaign?
We can even have a slogan. COME women of the world...join the church of oh my God.
reply to: doobydoll

Hey I'm married 33 years too. We are a rarity so maybe this has nothing to do with circumcision and everything to do with desire for our mates? My guys clean cut too. At age 62 premature ejaculation is certainly not a problem. LOL.a reply to: marg6043

No they don't ask. If you refuse you forfeit the possibility of marriage and children. So really what's the choice anyway? a reply to: Toadmund

These customs go back to before George...
George Washington that is. This is a social issue not a political one.


t reply to: Toadmund

a reply to: doobydoll

I wonder if this is a response to the Iraqi women learning to use weapons and in response to their taking up arms in defense of Iraq?

Not only is genital mutilation HORRIBLE, but it often kills many women. The UN needs to take ISIS out.

With the eternally added: if all this is true.

originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
No they don't ask. If you refuse you forfeit the possibility of marriage and children. So really what's the choice anyway? a reply to: Toadmund

So, before circumcision became 'all the rage - everyone is doing it!' people didn't have kids?

Maybe that's why Earth is so overpopulated, time to leave on those foreskins.

a reply to: Wildbob77

i will never understand the islamic way of thinking , they say their god is perfect and all merciful ,

so why do they think that their god made women imperfect and that they should correct his mistakes .

originally posted by: ~Lucidity

originally posted by: Snarl
This is bad. This is almost as bad as it gets. This is absolute subjugation.

Bad caricature, but it makes the point.

What the Hell did 0bama think he was doing? Yup ... gotta obey the orders of the Commander In Chief.

So ... What the Hell were the Voters thinking? Guess it really just doesn't matter what happens to 'other people' anymore.

Sorry for the rant. This stuff tears my soul.

A disgusting response to this topic.

What has the world really done for about genital mutilation elsewhere...you know...where there is nothing to gain? What does any president have to do with this? This is a human issue and condition. The revolution against which needs to start from within with support of other humans.

Exactly what do you expect a president to do about this? Bomb the f*ck out of yet another million or more women and children to stop this?

It was bush who set the stage for Isis, not obama. Sadams Iraq was perfectly safe for Christians and tourists.

This is absolutely a tragedy. The UN should be the ones stopping this, NOT America. It should be many countries together working to stop things like this. I wonder if any of these women refuse and choose death?

originally posted by: tom.farnhill
a reply to: Wildbob77

i will never understand the islamic way of thinking , they say their god is perfect and all merciful ,

so why do they think that their god made women imperfect and that they should correct his mistakes .

Well, it's obvious, they doubt their own gods perfection.
We've discovered the crack in the Islamic facade.

If god is not perfect, then he can be wrong, really really wrong. Or is that just people?
Yeah.....it's people.
(big sigh)

It is a practice beyond disgusting in every way. Could you imagine the international outrage if a few million extremist women went about issuing threats to all men about having a similar genital mutilation performed on them

Here in the UK it has been made illegal and parents that allowed it are to be prosecuted, and rightly so.

www.theguardian.com...

Parents will be prosecuted if they fail to prevent their daughter being cut, and all victims of female genital mutilation (FGM) will get lifelong anonymity, David Cameron will say on Tuesday.

As the prime minister hosts a Girl Summit with Unicef aimed at mobilising domestic and international efforts to end FGM and child marriage, new measures will be announced aimed at ending the practices "once and for all".

The announcement comes the day after it emerged that the number of women living in England and Wales who have been subjected to FGM is twice as high as previously thought. A new study reveals more than 137,000 women in England and Wales are living with the consequences of FGM. The number has significantly increased in the past 10 years as women flee war-torn countries to find safety in Britain, according to the report from City University and the human rights group Equality Now.

The news reports and the U.N. are doubling down and reconfirming that this story is true. There was some question as to the validity ... but they are now backing up their initial story.

Hmm, just saw this update from the BBC ....
www.bbc.co.uk...

Doubts grow over Isis 'FGM edict' in Iraq

Doubts are growing about the authenticity of an edict attributed to the Sunni Islamist group Isis controlling the Iraqi city of Mosul about female genital mutilation (FGM).

A top UN official quoted from a statement saying that Isis wanted all females aged between 11 and 46 in the northern city to undergo the procedure.

But media analysts say the decree seen on social media may be a fake.

It has typos and language mistakes and is signed by "The Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant", a name the group no longer uses, instead referring to itself as the Islamic State.

Some bloggers suggest that the alleged fatwa, which has been circulated on social media for about two days, may have been aimed at discrediting Isis.

Hmm, does ISIS need any help with discredits?

a reply to: AutumnWitch657

They can still orgasm as there are two types, 'V' and 'C', essentially FGM means they cannot experience the 'C' type, so they can still cheat with pleasure, if they wanted to.

Not so sure if ISIS style would give any sort of orgasm though, as it seems it isn't about pleasuring women at all.

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