President Putin's plane might have been the target for Ukrainian missile - sources

originally posted by: pl3bscheese
a reply to: Xcathdra

Okay, I'm not sure that tells us much of anything. It's obvious that MSM is state run. RT lies for Putin. US MSM lies for our interests. It doesn't really tell much about the situation, just tells us the obvious.

The west MSM did not cover this topic with putins plane - RT did.

Putin's spokesperson dismissed the article claim.

So I am not sure how west MSM comes into the equation. As for RT lying, thats a given since its their standard. In this case the lie they told did not work for the Kremlin, who tossed RT to themselves on this article.

originally posted by: Xcathdra

The west MSM did not cover this topic with putins plane - RT did.

Putin's spokesperson dismissed the article claim.

So I am not sure how west MSM comes into the equation.

You're not this dense. You replied to my post, of which I included a MUCH bigger picture than the fraction you're choosing to focus on.

The west MSM comes into the equation because it seems obvious to me that ALL MSM news sources are lying on this issue. If you want to believe that the west are the good guys, don't lie, and it's just evil russia or something, then we have nothing further to discuss.

As for RT lying, thats a given since its their standard. In this case the lie they told did not work for the Kremlin, who tossed RT to themselves on this article.

It's a standard for ALL MSM sources. You're basically telling us nothing whatsoever.

a reply to: Rosinitiate

What a ridiculous piece of propaganda....
It's from RT.. Putin is in Full PR Mode/Blame shifting.

The thread should be closed..... as a HOAX


Shameful RT propaganda.

Wake up

a reply to: pl3bscheese

I am not dense at all.. The thread title / topic is based on an RT article that the Kremlin dismissed. It had nothing to do with western MSM.

originally posted by: Rosinitiate
Well here's an interesting angle coming from RT.

Malaysian Airlines MH17 plane was travelling almost the same route as Russia’s President Vladimir Putin’s jet shortly before the crash that killed 295, Interfax news agency reports citing sources.

“I can say that Putin’s plane and the Malaysian Boeing intersected at the same point and the same echelon. That was close to Warsaw on 330-m echelon at the height of 10,100 meters. The presidential jet was there at 16:21 Moscow time and the Malaysian aircraft - 15:44 Moscow time,” a source told the news agency on condition of anonymity.

"The contours of the aircrafts are similar, linear dimensions are also very similar, as for the coloring, at a quite remote distance they are almost identical", the source added.

Now that is one helluva statement. Of course the source is protected but it would make for quite a story. All things considered, any narrative being offered from either side should be taken with a grain of salt.

Source

Here is a pic that shows a side-by-side.

Not trying to sound stupid or burst any bubbles, but why are they mentioning the coloring of the airplanes? I mean, it's not like you can see the paintjob from a distance of 10,000km...you only see a small dot. Meh. More of rubbish russian propaganda

a reply to: Xcathdra

Then don't reply to me and say essentially nothing, of which I covered and went far beyond, and think you're somehow adding anything at all.

It's one sided, and very annoying.

OK, lets just assume for a second that Putin's plane did travel that same path 26 minutes before. The Ukrainians fire a missle at it that misses, and then just hangs around flying for 25 minutes in the area until it re-locks on the 777. Anyone want to explain why that would not happen?

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a reply to: BlackNWhite

Plus it was cloudy. No one could even see a dot at 33,000 feet.

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originally posted by: pl3bscheese
a reply to: Xcathdra

Then don't reply to me and say essentially nothing, of which I covered and went far beyond, and think you're somehow adding anything at all.

It's one sided, and very annoying.

Of course its one sided... It came from RT and only RT dealing with a Russian issue. An issue the Russian Presidents staff dismissed.

Whats to add other than reminding you and some others that there is a reason the west did not bother to cover this. Even the Russian presidents staff dismissed the article claims.

Sorry, there's no mistaking a narrow-body 757 with a wide-body 777, unless your people don't have any clue what they are looking at. They are vastly different sized aircraft. Just because you “photoshop” two images to look roughly the same size, doesn't make it so in real life.

This is from a flight simulator page that I found quickly as I cannot find a real photo comparison, but in it you have a 777, 757, and 737.

a reply to: defcon5

I don't believe that for a second. Putin wasn't the target. MAYBE this was done to discredit him, but I think Putin is a favored child among the NWO. He's not a pawn like Obama, but he's in league with them for his own benefit.
Missing Flight 370 is a puzzle, though. One theory had it flying into Russia. And those top AIDS researchers are another.
I said before if you want to have a good idea who brought it down, look at who was on board and who might want to target them.

originally posted by: majestic3
Looks like we just stepped back to the Cold War,
Assassination attempt by the CIA most probably,

oh stop it.
I can't believe some of the posts in this topic *facepalm*

originally posted by: pl3bscheese

originally posted by: Xcathdra

The west MSM did not cover this topic with putins plane - RT did.

Putin's spokesperson dismissed the article claim.

So I am not sure how west MSM comes into the equation.

You're not this dense. You replied to my post, of which I included a MUCH bigger picture than the fraction you're choosing to focus on.

The west MSM comes into the equation because it seems obvious to me that ALL MSM news sources are lying on this issue. If you want to believe that the west are the good guys, don't lie, and it's just evil russia or something, then we have nothing further to discuss.

As for RT lying, thats a given since its their standard. In this case the lie they told did not work for the Kremlin, who tossed RT to themselves on this article.

It's a standard for ALL MSM sources. You're basically telling us nothing whatsoever.

that's right everyone is lying, they are all in lockstep with the same lying info....good grief.

Did Putin's plane take this route earlier? Yes or no?

Since several sources confirm Putin wasn't flying that day, the thread has been moved to hoax.