Malaysian 777 Passenger Airline Shot Down Over Eastern Ukraine

This is really an unfortunate event. You'd think after the plane was shot down, both sides would come to the conclusion things are getting out of hand.

The separatists were aiming for what they thought was a Ukrainian military aircraft and instead, it turned out to be a civilian airliner, carrying 300 people who had absolutely nothing to do with the war. Of course, Putin is going to cover this up and attempt to blame Ukraine for this, even though we all know the truth. It's the 2010 Polish plane "crash" all over again.


When it comes down to it, if the international community does not take action against Putin for this horrendous incident, then I really do give up hope on humanity as a whole.

No more petty personal comments please.

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originally posted by: Blackmarketeer
Today (July 18) another Russia Today news anchor resigned, accusing the network of 'spreading lies for Putin.'

Russia Today Anchor Resigns, Admits To Spreading 'Lies' For Putin

Well we all know RT is state sponsored. Take everything that comes out of that network with a grain of salt.

originally posted by: milomilo
i think this rocker2013 either a US goverment shill tasked will supporting US line on forums and smearing putin and russia and those who oppose US views.

this is media war..

that aside , i agree with you JD, this just a tip of that economic war against dollar that now being waged by brics.

US wont take this lying down, if dollar fall down the pn US will be destroyed in just 1 day and no money would be available to pay its military. you can buy cheap M1 abrams for 10 euro in near future..

A shill? I doubt it. There are many on this site that are expressing the same sort of thoughts as this poster and it's not because they are shills, it's because they have a certain political ideology and that ideology does not have any room for facts or patience.

The information they digest is biased and once they set their eyes on an "enemy"...no amount of facts will deter their desire to demonize that enemy.

They have been quite vocal lately and it's been fun for me to expose them.

a reply to: AlmightyCaligula

So you already came to conclusion even before researchers did? Will it even matter to you if by the end of investigation the blame will be on Ukrainian side? I guess no ..

And if comparing: It's October, 2001 all over again when Ukraine shot down Russian passenger plane and denied any involvement until it was proven that Ukrainian military did it. Only then they admitted.

originally posted by: ElohimJD

personal insults aside..... (seriously; "nonsensical" and "nutty"??)

The whole world is tied into the USD except BRICS. If war doesn't start soon, the countries you mentioned as involved in the investigation (USA, Australia, Germany, Canada, Netherlands etc.) are all USD dependent economies and will collapse with the USD.

I think is is entirely possible that the fear of global economic collapse affecting all countries mentioned as "investigators" can cause those investigators to cover something up.

I could be wrong, I mean when has anyone ever started a war to save an economy.....

God Bless,

Wow, I didn't even see your post when I replied nearly the same thing to the same comment!

I think it's becoming pretty clear actually.

Timing sure is convenient eh? A nice big distraction just as Israel begins its ground invasion and extermination of Palestinians.

My bet is the plane is the same one that went missing in March, and ultimately blame will be pinned on whoever Israel needs to target next. Brought to you by the same people who wrote Operation Northwoods, and 9/11

originally posted by: johnnyjoe1979
a reply to: milomilo

replying for convenience as I can't find the quoted post. There were 173 Dutch aboard, not 154.

It's now a confirmed 189 dutch aboard. There are 4 unconfirmed nationalities. Other casualties;
44 Malaysia
27 Australian
12 Indonesian
9 British
4 German
4 Belgians
3 Filipino
1 New Zealander and 1 Canadian.

a reply to: johnnyjoe1979

Interesting. I thought there were around 20+ Americans on the plane. At least that's what has been going around.

originally posted by: 8675309jenny
Timing sure is convenient eh? A nice big distraction just as Israel begins its ground invasion and extermination of Palestinians.

My bet is the plane is the same one that went missing in March, and ultimately blame will be pinned on whoever Israel needs to target next. Brought to you by the same people who wrote Operation Northwoods, and 9/11

According to FlightRadar24, flight MH17 was cancelled and never left the ground

a reply to: sheepslayer247

That is what Psaki said. But you cannot believe her anything. In the last month she said that US navy will go to the Belorussian waters (they don't have any). She said that all of the refugees went to Rostov to visit their grandmothers and to ski in their hills (they don't have any in Rostov). Once she said that Russia has to pay their debt to Ukraine for the gas they bought from them. She said that Russia buys gas from Europe through Ukraine.

All in all ... she's not very smart.

EDIT: But everything is possible. They still have to find about 100 people.

How trustworthy is this guy?
www.abc.net.au...

I also read an article in Swedish newspaper SVD where he spoke about this incident. He claims the rebels are behind this because they have new weapons and they wanna use them, but they are not very good at watching the radar. He makes some points about the rebels shooting down airplanes before and asks why Ukraine would shoot airplane when the rebels dont have any planes for Ukraine to target. He is guessing we will never see that black box again and claims that by international law, the box should be handed to the country the plane crashed in and that Russia cant take it.

Link to newspaper for full google translate:
www.svd.se...

a reply to: Hellas

No, it was canceled after takeoff. They have the replay of the flight on their website from takeoff until Donetsk.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Hellas

No, it was canceled after takeoff. They have the replay of the flight on their website from takeoff until Donetsk.

I was just testing you

Thanks for the info

a reply to: Hellas

The arrival is cancelled. Flightaware has tracking for it's flight.

originally posted by: baburak
a reply to: AlmightyCaligula

So you already came to conclusion even before researchers did? Will it even matter to you if by the end of investigation the blame will be on Ukrainian side? I guess no ..

And if comparing: It's October, 2001 all over again when Ukraine shot down Russian passenger plane and denied any involvement until it was proven that Ukrainian military did it. Only then they admitted.

Actually, many have come to the same conclusion, and the audio that was released only supports it.

If you are good at patterns, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out who f'd up here.

Hint:

Rebels shooting down Ukrainian military aircrafts. Aircraft is shot down in eastern Ukraine (occupied by mainly pro Russian rebels).

This wasn't an intentional attack on civilians. Let's make that clear, but the fact Russia is covering this up is absolutely disgusting, but who would expect anything else from the Putinmeister?

a reply to: AlmightyCaligula

You do know that audio that was released, was uploaded to YouTube at least 14 hours before the crash? And after everyone realised that, it was removed from youtube .. but we live in the world where once something is on the internet, it can never be erased

What about that pattern?

originally posted by: baburak
a reply to: AlmightyCaligula

You do know that audio that was released, was uploaded to YouTube at least 14 hours before the crash? And after everyone realised that, it was removed from youtube .. but we live in the world where once something is on the internet, it can never be erased

What about that pattern?

Funny, because the video is still up and running.

Also, I already explained the patterns.

Thanks!!

originally posted by: baburak
a reply to: AlmightyCaligula

You do know that audio that was released, was uploaded to YouTube at least 14 hours before the crash? And after everyone realised that, it was removed from youtube .. but we live in the world where once something is on the internet, it can never be erased

What about that pattern?

I haven't read this thread since page 40 something so forgive me if it has been answered but can you post the proof that those recordings were a fake.

a reply to: Zaphod58
Zap, regarding black-boxes, do you think anything significant will be extracted from tapes?

Also, are there systems in commercial planes like in military jets such as alarms for radar lightening or that SAM or AA missiles are fired towards the plane?

Thanks