Malaysian 777 Passenger Airline Shot Down Over Eastern Ukraine

a reply to: Zaphod58

Thanks, but this was probably filmed two days after.

There is only one piece of footage showing us the crash site when it just happened as far as I can tell.

I'm not saying this means anything.

originally posted by: snoopyuk
there are rumors over here in the EU from some dutch friends in the Military that the Dutch are sending in troops to the site , as they are furious over the looting of the site and desecration of their dead countrymen.

snoopyuk

I have not seen ANY such desecration and to the contrary, I have seen Ukrainian farmers reluctantly pulling back sheets just enough to prove a corpse lay beneath it.

The "poking with sticks" comments are HATE SPEECH by those who want war.

a reply to: Zaphod58

So explain why they weren't on their scheduled course.

originally posted by: AstralTrespass
a reply to: Zaphod58

So explain why they weren't on their scheduled course.

They were.

a reply to: Zaphod58

I am not sure if that answers my questions.

Now with the US pointing the finger at Russia... It just seems far too convenient.

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: AstralTrespass
a reply to: Zaphod58

So explain why they weren't on their scheduled course.

They were.

But Zaphod just said this,

The dashed line was the planned flight path, the blue line was the actual path.

originally posted by: AstralTrespass
a reply to: Zaphod58

So explain why they weren't on their scheduled course.

A Biiig space existed between MH17 and any other commercial traffic so that it could be IDENTIFIED as the arranged target for this HISTORIC hoax.

a reply to: wycky

I really hope this is not it. If it is, it shows the right wing on fire, but the fuselage intact *with unknown damage) and the aircraft still flying. if reports are to be believed that parts and bodies were falling from the sky, then this means that after this footage the aircraft failure structurally. This means that when the missle struck, and for time after that, people were alive in the plane, knew what was happening, and potentially were alive all the way down.

My gods I don't know how to even comprehend that. Horrific to say the least. I feel cold

Gods help them all.

LISTEN: LATEST UPDATE from the #MH17 crash site from .@osce_smm spox Michael Bociurkiw via .@uacrisis

Text IS MH17 THE MISSING MH370 PLANE?

Here's what the planes had in common:

Both flights were Boeing 777s.

Both flights were connected to Kuala Lumpur.  MH 17 was flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur when it went down over the Ukraine on 7/17/14. MH370 left Kuala Lumpur for Beijing when it disappeared on 8/3/14. Air traffic controllers lost contact with MH370 over the waters between Malaysia and Vietnam.

MH17 had 295 passengers and crew members on board. MH370 had 239 passengers and crew aboard.

The Russian news agency Interfax says MH17 was shot down. Investigators don't know what brought down MH 370. Theories range from mechanical failure to hijacking to pilot murder-suicide, but without finding the plane or its flight data recorders officials have been unable to say with any certainty what happened on board.

Malaysia is reeling from the second tragedy to hit its national airline in less than five months.

Amid it all, a question: Just how could disaster strike the airline twice in such a short space of time?

"Either one of these events has an unbelievably low probability," said John Cox, president and CEO of Safety Operating Systems and a former airline pilot and accident investigator. "To have two in a just a few months of each other is certainly unprecedented."

Over 500 passengers have been murderedon board two "downed" Malaysian Boeing 777's within 3 months of each other. This is NOT a coincidence. Wake up, everybody!

The hijackers of the MH370 missing plane that was hidden in an airport hangar at the Diego Garcia island military base needed to dispose of the evidence. What better way than to blow it up and blame it on an enemy!

This event appears to be a set up for a staged third world war of east versus west to ring in the planned New World Order.

 

Where's the proof? The problem is that the investigation will NOT predictably focus on identifying MH17 as MH370. It will focus on blaming Russia and proving it.

FAMILIES MUST DEMAND PROOF THAT MH17 IS "NOT" MH370

In view of the unlikely coincidence of two Malaysian Boing 777's being downed within 3 months of each other, there's undoubtedly a connection!

We need to contact and help organize the surviving family members of all passengers on board MH370 and MH17. They need to organize and DEMAND PROOF that MH17 is or is not the missing MH370 plane.

This needs to be a criminal investigation. Don't count on the so called "authorities" to help out any more than they did after 9/11. Expect a cover-up but refuse to allow it.

DEMAND ANSWERS!

Here's what family members need to DEMAND to know:

1. What is the history of the plane called MH17?

2. Is MH17 a brand "new" Boeing 777?

3. Where was MH17 built?

4. When was MH17 bought by Malaysian airlines?

5. When was MH17 named MH17?

6. What are the identification numbers of MH17 and MH370?

7. Was MH17's identifying serial numbers destroyed in the explosion and fire?

8. What was last months flight schedule for MH17 prior to being downed?

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Interesting. I wonder if this is the fact

a reply to: JakiusFogg

To add, the footage show a white plume shortly after impact streaming behind the aircraft. This will be the engine fire extinguisher being set off, which is a pilot input reacting to an engine fire warning. again meaning, someone in the front was alive.

a reply to: JakiusFogg

It's not. It's a Ukrainian surveillance plane that was shot down last month. It's already been posted and debunked on this thread.

theaviationist.com...

Not sure if it's been posted:





Ukie military does have BUK's that are functional in the area.


Ukie military near Slavyansk -- July 2014.


Why would the Ukie military need BUK's when the separatists have NO aircraft?

a reply to: JakiusFogg

On what page was the post and vid you responded to posted if I may ask?

It was established long ago that this footage was of an earlier downed plane and not mh17.

originally posted by: SurrenderingAmerica



Why would the Ukie military need BUK's when the separatists have NO aircraft?

Very interesting point

a reply to: SurrenderingAmerica

Why would the Ukie military need BUK's when the separatists have NO aircraft?

Because Russia has?

a reply to: Phatdamage

Seriously!

One: look up history of 9M-MRO (flight MH370), and look at 9M-MRD (flight MH17)

You advice of what questions families should be demanding answers to is idiotic to say the least. It shows a clear lack of understanding of anything, especially aircraft and aviation.

You should be ashamed for posting such drivel.

a reply to: Phatdamage

Since MH370 has never been found im not sure how you can make some of the claims you have above.

WIKI -

Malaysian Airline System (MAS; Malay: Sistem Penerbangan Malaysia) is the flag carrier airline of Malaysia. Malaysia Airlines (MAS) operates flights from its home base, Kuala Lumpur International Airport and with a secondary hub in Kota Kinabalu and Kuching. The airline has its headquarters on the grounds of Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah Airport in Subang, Selangor, in Greater Kuala Lumpur. It is a member of the Oneworld airline alliance.

a reply to: oxbow

Thank gods for that!. a little less horror to worry about.