Israeli Naval Ship Bombs Palestinian Children on Gaza Beach - Killing Four

originally posted by: Rosha
For those still ignorant of time line of recent events, this entire disaster began with the willful shooting murder by IDF soldiers of an unarmed 27-year-old Palestinian named Oudeh Hamad of Beit Hanoun in the northern Gaza Strip .

Very wrong again, this started as a result of years of Hamas terrorists launching thousands of rockets at Israel - but you seem to like to ignore that fact. Funny that.

The reason for the high civilian death toll is the Hamas terrorists using civilians as human shields, also Hamas terrorists hiding in hospitals and schools, and also using them to store their rockets - but again you like to ignore that fact also!

Breaking:

- Israel breaks its own ceasefire. Gaza’s health ministry reports two latest strikes took place after ceasefire began at 10am local time (8am BST) IDF bombed two homes in Shati refugee camp killing one child injuring 29 after this time.
www.todayszaman.com...

- Fighting also continues in Rafah and Israeli artillery is currently shelling heavily on Al-Zaitoun neighborhood east Gaza Strip.

392 children have now been killed in Gaza in 28 days according to UNICEF, surpassing the 350 killed in Cast Lead in '08-09.

Argentina revokes dual nationality for Israelis " No citizen will be forced to serve in Israeli military" twitter.com...

Incredibly JPost piece openly gives solution as "dismantling Gaza"+"relocation of the non-belligerent Arab population - aka - another open statement on active genocide. www.jpost.com...

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: Rosha
For those still ignorant of time line of recent events, this entire disaster began with the willful shooting murder by IDF soldiers of an unarmed 27-year-old Palestinian named Oudeh Hamad of Beit Hanoun in the northern Gaza Strip .

Very wrong again, this started as a result of years of Hamas terrorists launching thousands of rockets at Israel - but you seem to like to ignore that fact. Funny that.

The reason for the high civilian death toll is the Hamas terrorists using civilians as human shields, also Hamas terrorists hiding in hospitals and schools, and also using them to store their rockets - but again you like to ignore that fact also!

That is still undocumented by anything else than pro-israel media.

But I guess that even though the UN were present at all three schools, they were still being used by Hamas as storage facilities.

Very wrong again, this started as a result of years of Hamas terrorists launching thousands of rockets at Israel - but you seem to like to ignore that fact. Funny that.

The reason for the high civilian death toll is the Hamas terrorists using civilians as human shields, also Hamas terrorists hiding in hospitals and schools, and also using them to store their rockets - but again you like to ignore that fact also!




And a fond welcome to you Mark Regev.
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originally posted by: flice
That is still undocumented by anything else than pro-israel media.

What a load of crap from you - do you deny these numbers? 6250 Rockets and mortar attacks launched by Hamas terrorists so far in the last 4 years and there you stand with your fingers in your ears, covering your eyes claiming that they never happened!

en.wikipedia.org...
2011 677 rockets and mortars launched at Israel by Hamas terrorists

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2012 2417 rockets and mortars launched at Israel by Hamas terrorists

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2013 70 rockets and mortars launched at Israel by Hamas terrorists

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So far this year 3086 rockets and mortars launched at Israel by Hamas terrorists.

a reply to: hellobruce

Ah Wikipedia! Zionist controlled BS!

originally posted by: Hilux1996
a reply to: hellobruce

Ah Wikipedia! Zionist controlled BS!

So anything that posts the facts is Zionist controlled BS....

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: Hilux1996
a reply to: hellobruce

Ah Wikipedia! Zionist controlled BS!

So anything that posts the facts is Zionist controlled BS....

Facts? Did you say facts? Here's a fact for you. The Zionists were behind the Holocaust.

Would you agree or disagree with that Fact?!

originally posted by: Hilux1996
The Zionists were behind the Holocaust.

Would you agree or disagree with that Fact?!

So the Nazi's were really closet Zionists.... You really have a warped view of the world, everyone but you is a Zionist!

a reply to: hellobruce

My case proven in point. No point discussing anything with you.

While IDF mules continue to troll twtr feeds and face book, forums and TV ardently demanding the worlds attention be on "Hamas rockets', it distracts everyone from focusing on what Israel itself has been throwing into Palestinian territorial areas for decades - before Hamas even existed to fire them. occupiedpalestine.wordpress.com...

It also hides from the public the one most damning statistic of all to IDF rhetoric - that despite the current and ongoing hyperbole being made by media over rocket fire, the reality is that the total fatalities in the history of rocket and mortar attacks from Gaza into Israel is : 26 ( 21 if you remove non Israeli citizens killed inside Israel.)

This is a statement of and for perspective, not support for violence or negation of the value of the lives of these individuals.

Active deconstruction of the methods of IDF propaganda and myths is imperative, especially now: mondoweiss.net... and it is important to know that a UN 2009 fact finding and research mission to Gaza has already novelized and unveiled Israel's useful but largely fabricated use of "rocket fire" as a "manufactured crisis tool". This research has been added to since Cast Lead by many other groups:
electronicintifada.net...

Using the IDF"s own record of numbers dates and locations and correlating those with IDF activities in Gaza, multiple graphical evidences complied support the Hamas claim that rockets were and are being fired into Israel predominately after increased in IDF activity - making them retaliatory actions of resistance under International Law.

Ongoing occupation and provocations by the IDF in Gaza since 1987 that have led to retaliatory strikes have included things such as mass extrajudicial murders, detainment of over 6000 children, mass arrests of civilians, continued forced removal of Palestinians from their homes and land, use of illegal weapons, WMD ( Dep Uranium), bio-weapons www.imemc.org... gas as well as live fire bullets shot across the border by the IDF into unarmed Palestinian protesters.
occupiedpalestine.wordpress.com...

It goes without saying that with the IDF having total control over Gaza's land air sea and border checkpoints, provocation in the occupied territories is relative, yet even within Gaza, especially there, there are limits to what people can cope with without response.

The use of rocket fire as a diversionary tactic, similar to tunnels rhetoric is known and understood by most everyone who study or live this region as an ongoing part of the IDF's Hegelian dialectic. It remains, that IDF has known about Hamas tunnels and entries on the Israel side for over ten years, could have blown them at any time and need never have entered Gaza to do so.

The focus on tunnels, rockets et al.. are intentional pretexts. Pretext's media keeps repeating in order to illicit a response from people, so being agitated into fear and flight via perceived 'threat' they are malleable, not thinking critically, and so become sympathetic to governments perspective by proxy.

Deny ignorance.

- IDF shoot and kill white flag waving civilians in Khuza’a evac'ing their homes
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( PTN: Khuza’a region was the last known sighting of over 150 Palestinian men aged 11-60, last images, posted here earlier, show them stripped naked on their knees, they have since disappeared to unspecified detainment camps)

- IDF bombs take out two more homes killing 33 in total in 24 hrs to 2 am AEST.

- Another ceasefire 72 hrs apparently agreed upon for Gaza, word from Gaza " two word joke : Israel/ceasefire"

- In Cairo and despite a week of refusals, Israel decides to send a team to long term ceasefire negotiations after all.

- Over 1,000 Kahanists (inlcd. Knesset members) march through Jerusalem demanding settlers conquer Gaza. :/

Latest OCHA update: www.ochaopt.org...

UNRWA : " Our preliminary investigations indicate that 5 of our shelters have been subject to direct kinetic strikes by IDF, 1 of them on 2 occasions."

- The Likud Charter calling for the destruction of any Palestinian State Link

- Google Play’s ‘Bomb Gaza’ Game Lets You Kill Palestinian Women and Children' SICKENING
www.styleite.com...

An article from Noam Chomsky that puts things into perspective rather well.
Nightmare in Gaza

Before and after images of destruction in Gaza : graphics.wsj.com...

Eight brave members of the USA congress stand up.
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Some insight into how the situation in Israel and the nature of relationship between IS and US is affecting US/Mexico border relations in the USA Link

CNN, Tony Maddox: Quote: "Our infield reporters have repeatedly said that Hamas militants are rarely to be found on the streets of Gaza. We have had no intimidation from Hamas, and received no threats regarding our reporting. They have so far refused all requests for interviews in Gaza."

NDTV reports from Rafah South Gaza
www.ndtv.com...

originally posted by: Rosha
UNRWA : " Our preliminary investigations indicate that 5 of our shelters have been subject to direct kinetic strikes by IDF, 1 of them on 2 occasions."

Of course you forget to mention that if the hamas terrorists did not store their missiles in the UN facilities, or if they did not let the hamas terrorists hide in them they would not be attacked!

CNN, Tony Maddox: Quote: "Our infield reporters have repeatedly said that Hamas militants are rarely to be found on the streets of Gaza. "

That is because the Hamas terrorists are hiding in the tunnels they built - instead of helping the people of Gaza they sent the money on building tunnels to hide in and attack Israel from!

It is pathetic how the Hamas terrorist supporters avoid telling the truth, preferring to just spout their propaganda. They totally ignore the fact that Hamas's charter states that they will destroy Israel, and do not want peace with Israel.

www.asianage.com...

Hamas will never recognise Israel and will not accept the conditions laid out by the Middle East peacemaking Quartet, according to the Islamist movement’s deputy leader. Speaking late on Saturday, Mussa Abu Marzuq said Hamas, which recently signed a reconciliation deal with the Western-backed Palestinian leadership in the occupied West Bank, would never agree to recognise Israel.

The Likud Charter calling for the destruction of any Palestinian State:

Linked Here

"Since virtually every comment on Hamas in American media includes the assertion that the group’s Charter rejects Israel’s right to exist, it’s worth noting the following from the Likud Platform of 1999" -

a. “The Jordan river will be the permanent eastern border of the State of Israel.”
b. “Jerusalem is the eternal, united capital of the State of Israel and only of Israel. The government will flatly reject Palestinian proposals to divide Jerusalem”
c. “The Government of Israel flatly rejects the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state west of the Jordan river.”
d. “The Jewish communities in Judea, Samaria and Gaza are the realization of Zionist values. "



Zionist terror attacks before any ‘State of Israel’ existed :

During the 1936–1939 Arab revolt in Palestine against the British Mandate of Palestine the militant Zionist group the Irgun carried out sixty attacks against Arabs and British soldiers.Irgun was described as a terrorist organization by The New York Times, the Anglo-American Committee of Enquiry, prominent world figures such as Winston Churchill and Jewish figures such as Hannah Arendt, Albert Einstein, and many others.
The Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs describes it as “an underground organization.” The New York Times at the time cited sources in an investigative piece which linked the Haganah paramilitary group to the Irgun terrorist attacks such as the King David Hotel Bombing. Irgun launched a series of attacks which lasted until the beginning of World War II. All told, Irgun attacks against Arab targets resulted in at least 250 Arab deaths during this period.

PTN: Inside Tel Aviv today, the IDF is still called " Haganah"

THE ONGOING GENOCIDE ON PALESTINE :Link

The page above links to a list of massacres committed by the IDF, it is by no means exclusive, but it reflects the nature of the Zionist occupation of Palestine and Lebanon ( 18,000 killed in one massacre there alone) and show that massacres and expulsions were not aberrations that happen in any war, but organized atrocities with only one aim, that is to have a Zionist state which is ‘goyim rein’ ( free of non Jews).


“Hamas is regularly described as 'Iranian-backed Hamas, which is dedicated to the destruction of Israel.' One will be hard put to find something like 'democratically elected Hamas, which has long been calling for a two-state settlement in accord with the international consensus'—blocked for over 30 years by the US and Israel. All true, but not a useful contribution to the Party Line, hence dispensable.” ― Noam Chomsky, Gaza in Crisis: Reflections on Israel's War Against the Palestinians

5 minutes after Egyptian brokered ceasefire Israeli artillery shell areas in north Gaza Strip reports already in that two homes have been destroyed in Beit Hanoun and Tal Al-Zaater.

News of ceasefire here: www.haaretz.com...

Note pls how they 'forgot' to mention that in the last 45 minutes prior to the Hamas rocket barrage, IDF killed 19 people in multiple air strikes.

originally posted by: Rosha
Note pls how they 'forgot' to mention that in the last 45 minutes prior to the Hamas rocket barrage, IDF killed 19 people in multiple air strikes.

Rocket barrage targets Israel moments before cease-fire due to begin

Note how you "forgot' to mention that those airstrikes were on rocket launch sites that rockets attacking Israel had just been launched from, and the people killed were Hamas terrorists...

Of course Hamas and their supporters will again try and deny the facts!

originally posted by: hellobruce
Note how you "forgot' to mention that those airstrikes were on rocket launch sites that rockets attacking Israel had just been launched from, and the people killed were Hamas terrorists...

I will type it again, very slowly, as you seem incapable of reading any post not your own.....


The Hamas barrage followed the IDF missile strike 45 minutes earlier that killed 19 people.

That retaliatory barrage by Hamas, is reported as being launched from what remains of Rafah NOT Beit Hanoun and Tal Al-Zaater that Israel just bombed.

They were two different incidents at different places and the Hamas barrage went out BEFORE the ceasefire.

Israels bombing of homes was 5 minutes AFTER ceasefire.

originally posted by: Rosha
CNN, Tony Maddox: Quote: "Our infield reporters have repeatedly said that Hamas militants are rarely to be found on the streets of Gaza. We have had no intimidation from Hamas, and received no threats regarding our reporting. They have so far refused all requests for interviews in Gaza."

Italian journalist leaves Gaza, tells truth once free from Hamas retaliation

Out of #Gaza far from #Hamas retaliation: misfired rocket killed children yday in Shati. Witness: militants rushed and cleared debris

@IDFSpokesperson said truth in communique released yesterday about Shati camp massacre. It was not #Israel behind it

This Italian reporter once out of Gaza tells of direct intimidation by Hamas.
CNN has an anti-Israeli agenda, and it has been proven when they had to fire a woman reporter for comments on air that blew their façade. Of course they will claim no intimidation or all of their storylines will be instant bunk.

Source

This story shows how Hamas rockets hit inside Gaza, either from poor quality or idiots aiming them or on purpose is not known, what is known is that they were four rockets fired inside Gaza all from the same launch site, one being intercepted by Iron Dome, one to a Gaza hospital, and one to a refugee site inside Gaza and one went out over the ocean.

Seems the real story is that Israel was not producing enough dead telegenic Palestinians for Hamas so they make their own and blame Israel to jack up the casualty numbers. They were caught chaining mentally retarded people to homes about to be bombed, tossing in the bodies of those they execute, and never revealing how many militants died in the fighting.

Israel estimates they killed 900 militants, Hamas says 1900 civilians died, so out of the remaining 1000 most were likely human shields, or other victims of Hamas. Worst case scenario it was 1 to 1 militant for civilian, which coincides with the use of human shields by Hamas.

I think the evidence is clear, they launched two rockets at high civilian casualty probability sites from the same launch site. Israel has the data, every square inch of airspace was monitored the whole time during this war, expect to see more evidence like this against Hamas.

originally posted by: TinfoilTP
This story shows how Hamas rockets hit inside Gaza, either from poor quality or idiots aiming them or on purpose is not known, what is known is that they were four rockets fired inside Gaza all from the same launch site, one being intercepted by Iron Dome, one to a Gaza hospital, and one to a refugee site inside Gaza and one went out over the ocean.

Hamas supporters will just ignore this, just like they like to ignore Hamas hiding their missiles inside schools

I think the evidence is clear, they launched two rockets at high civilian casualty probability sites from the same launch site. Israel has the data, every square inch of airspace was monitored the whole time during this war, expect to see more evidence like this against Hamas.

It is very clear, but some will refuse to see it!

Ahem!



Very clear Israeli Lies and Propaganda!


They repeat the lies every time. Just like the US did at 9/11. They repeated the words, Terror, Terrorism, Terrorist and Osama Bin Laden. Great way to program stupid people to believe your lies.

I guess Jeremy is getting fed up with the lies as well!