Ex-Minnesota governor says TV career halted by sniper's claims

He's just not playing this from the right angle, he didn't join ATS soon enough to see it maybe.....
An implied conspiracy with the proof being a destroyed reputation from an accuser conveniently not among the living any longer.........

originally posted by: macman
a reply to: NavyDoc

He went through UDT, which is basically BUDS and SEAL training.

sofrep.com...

I have meant Brandon, and others that will vouch for him. He speaks the truth.

No, he was a UDT and did not pass through the SEAL training. AFTER, he got out the MOS were merged but those who were UDT still had to pass trough SEAL training in order to earn the trident. He was never a SEAL and never earned the trident.

Although Ventura underwent UDT training, he never attempted the additional 26-week SEAL Qualification Training. On completion of his BUD/S training, Ventura was assigned to a UDT team. In 1983, eight years after Ventura left the Navy, the UDTs were disbanded and those operators were retrained and retasked as SEALs.

originally posted by: Answer
I'm curious why anyone would believe Jesse's side of the story when he's known for being a loud, boisterous, full-of-crap caricature of himself that does whatever it takes to seek publicity. He loves to say unpopular things just to get people riled up.



The fact that he has continued the case against a dead warrior's family says everything you need to know about Jesse Ventura's character.

If it happened in a bar, I'm sure plenty of witnesses to the altercation will step up to disprove Jesse's side of the story and back Kyle (crickets chirping). As far as continuing the case, he's suing the business estate, and not the family. Also Kyle was given plenty of opportunities to tell the truth instead of making up a story to sell his book.

I doubt if this will ever go to court. The widow's estate will settle out of court and this case will fade away.

Jesse will come back with a new CT show on siris or cable and continue to be a minor player in the media.

a reply to: buster2010

If Jesse had been a Republican Chris Kyle would have been a deserter or traitor somehow.

quote "age of 17 he joined the U.S. Navy and served two tours of duty in Vietnam as an operations specialist."
unquote,,

two tours of duty in Vietnam,,, let me highlight that,, two tours of duty in Vietnam,, how old??

he's a seal,,a damn underwater, seal,,,

ya Jesse Ventura is a Seal .
in my opinion.

2 tours.

quote "age of 17 he joined the U.S. Navy and served two tours of duty in Vietnam as an operations specialist."
unquote,,

two tours of duty in Vietnam,,, let me highlight that,, two tours of duty in Vietnam,, how old??

he's a seal,,a damn underwater, seal,,,

ya Jesse Ventura is a Seal .
in my opinion.

2 tours.

i dont know,, first ever quad? post,, lol

nope only a double,, darn.

a reply to: macman

I know the people I have spoken to will/have backed Kyle and what he said happened.

Ask these people you know if they knew Kyle was a well known liar. He has been proven to have lied to boost his ego. Like the time he said he killed two guys who were trying to car jack him. The police said it never happened. He also said he shot 300 looters in New Orleans after Katrina but his commander said he wasn't even in the area.

But, here is what I don't get. How did Jesse's show get cancelled by a comment in a book, that didn't identify him?

Because Kyle went on tv and said it was him. You can say anything you want but when you bad mouth dead veterans you can count your tv career is pretty much over.

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: Answer
I'm curious why anyone would believe Jesse's side of the story when he's known for being a loud, boisterous, full-of-crap caricature of himself that does whatever it takes to seek publicity. He loves to say unpopular things just to get people riled up.

The fact that he has continued the case against a dead warrior's family says everything you need to know about Jesse Ventura's character.

This. Include the facts that he's lied about being a SEAL for many years.

That isn't a lie. He and his team were made honorary Seals.

a reply to: buster2010

Ya know, I have asked some of the people I associate with and all state Kyle was Honorable.

I will take the word from the people I know personally, then that of people I have never met.

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: Answer
I'm curious why anyone would believe Jesse's side of the story when he's known for being a loud, boisterous, full-of-crap caricature of himself that does whatever it takes to seek publicity. He loves to say unpopular things just to get people riled up.

The fact that he has continued the case against a dead warrior's family says everything you need to know about Jesse Ventura's character.

This. Include the facts that he's lied about being a SEAL for many years.

That isn't a lie. He and his team were made honorary Seals.

LOL.

Really? So if the Blue Angels made you an honorary pilot, would you wear wings and tell everyone that you were a pilot?

I've was in the Navy for 25 years and you don't get "honorary" warfare qualifications. UDT and SEALS were two different MOS with a same basic school in the beginning of the track and then divided into two separate MOS. AFTER Ventura left the Navy, the UDT MOS was done away with as redundant and those UDT members who wished to stay in the community were given the opportunity to train as SEALS. Ventura did not do that as it was 8 years after he left service that this was done.

In plain English for clueless non-military types--he. was. not. a. SEAL.

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: Answer
I'm curious why anyone would believe Jesse's side of the story when he's known for being a loud, boisterous, full-of-crap caricature of himself that does whatever it takes to seek publicity. He loves to say unpopular things just to get people riled up.

The fact that he has continued the case against a dead warrior's family says everything you need to know about Jesse Ventura's character.

This. Include the facts that he's lied about being a SEAL for many years.

That isn't a lie. He and his team were made honorary Seals.

LOL.

Really? So if the Blue Angels made you an honorary pilot, would you wear wings and tell everyone that you were a pilot?

I've was in the Navy for 25 years and you don't get "honorary" warfare qualifications. UDT and SEALS were two different MOS with a same basic school in the beginning of the track and then divided into two separate MOS. AFTER Ventura left the Navy, the UDT MOS was done away with as redundant and those UDT members who wished to stay in the community were given the opportunity to train as SEALS. Ventura did not do that as it was 8 years after he left service that this was done.

In plain English for clueless non-military types--he. was. not. a. SEAL.

It. was. the. equivalent. of. a. SEAL. at. the. time. he. served.

It looks like Kris Kyle was telling the truth...

Witness in defamation suit says she saw Jesse Ventura get punched in bar

ST. PAUL, Minn. — A witness has testified in Jesse Ventura’s defamation lawsuit that she saw someone punch the former Minnesota governor at a bar in California in 2006.

Laura deShazo of Salt Lake City testified Monday she was at the pub in Coronado California, the night when slain “American Sniper” author Chris Kyle said he punched a man he called “Scruff Face.” Kyle later identified the man as Ventura.

DeShazo said she was in the bar to attend the wake for a friend of Kyle’s. While there, she, her sister and her brother’s girlfriend poses for a picture with Ventura.

DeShazo says she later saw Ventura get into a scuffle with other people at the bar, and saw a man punch Ventura.

She said she doesn’t know who threw the punch, but she gave a description that was consistent with Kyle.
Ventura testified that the punch never happened.

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: Answer
I'm curious why anyone would believe Jesse's side of the story when he's known for being a loud, boisterous, full-of-crap caricature of himself that does whatever it takes to seek publicity. He loves to say unpopular things just to get people riled up.

The fact that he has continued the case against a dead warrior's family says everything you need to know about Jesse Ventura's character.

This. Include the facts that he's lied about being a SEAL for many years.

That isn't a lie. He and his team were made honorary Seals.

LOL.

Really? So if the Blue Angels made you an honorary pilot, would you wear wings and tell everyone that you were a pilot?

I've was in the Navy for 25 years and you don't get "honorary" warfare qualifications. UDT and SEALS were two different MOS with a same basic school in the beginning of the track and then divided into two separate MOS. AFTER Ventura left the Navy, the UDT MOS was done away with as redundant and those UDT members who wished to stay in the community were given the opportunity to train as SEALS. Ventura did not do that as it was 8 years after he left service that this was done.

In plain English for clueless non-military types--he. was. not. a. SEAL.

It. was. the. equivalent. of. a. SEAL. at. the. time. he. served.

No it wasn't. You. Are. Wrong. They were two separate MOS with different qualifications paths. The equivalent of a SEAL at the time was a SEAL--one who finished the 26 week qualification course, which he didn't. He was even out eight years before the UDT MOS went away and those who remained were still not able to wear the trident until they qualified. You cannot wear a warfare qualification nor call yourself one of them if you did not qualify for it.

Even today, you do not get your pin after BUDS, but only after you have finished BUDS and SQT. BUDS is just the start of a long road.

Jesse ruined his own tv career. Hollywood doesn't like actors who speak out against the current government. Those that do, have a hard time finding work. I don't see Jesse wining this lawsuit at all.

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: Answer
I'm curious why anyone would believe Jesse's side of the story when he's known for being a loud, boisterous, full-of-crap caricature of himself that does whatever it takes to seek publicity. He loves to say unpopular things just to get people riled up.

The fact that he has continued the case against a dead warrior's family says everything you need to know about Jesse Ventura's character.

This. Include the facts that he's lied about being a SEAL for many years.

That isn't a lie. He and his team were made honorary Seals.

LOL.

Really? So if the Blue Angels made you an honorary pilot, would you wear wings and tell everyone that you were a pilot?

I've was in the Navy for 25 years and you don't get "honorary" warfare qualifications. UDT and SEALS were two different MOS with a same basic school in the beginning of the track and then divided into two separate MOS. AFTER Ventura left the Navy, the UDT MOS was done away with as redundant and those UDT members who wished to stay in the community were given the opportunity to train as SEALS. Ventura did not do that as it was 8 years after he left service that this was done.

In plain English for clueless non-military types--he. was. not. a. SEAL.

It. was. the. equivalent. of. a. SEAL. at. the. time. he. served.

No it wasn't. They were two separate MOS with different qualifications paths. The equivalent of a SEAL at the time was a SEAL--one who finished the 26 week qualification course, which he didn't. He was even out eight years before the UDT MOS went away and those who remained were still not able to wear the trident until they qualified. You cannot wear a warfare qualification nor call yourself one of them if you did not qualify for it.

That is not what your response was previously.
You said if he had taken the extra courses, which were only offered 8 years after he served, he would qualify for what a SEAL is now.
Maybe something was lost in your description, but I took it that he did the same training as seals at the time but later when they unified there was additional training required for the demolition guys.

It's not very clear, he always did say publicly that he did the same training as the SEALS but was in the UDT, so basically we all believed at the time he served both were trained equally then went off in their own specialized branch, either SEALS or UDT. Obviously at that point there would be different trainings beyond that point, but to become either, he always said the initial training was the same in them days.

a reply to: macman

Brothers in blood. Good or bad, hell or highwater. Brothers.

a reply to: NavyDoc

In plain English for clueless non-military types--he. was. not. a. SEAL.

I am a vet so you can drop the non military types crap.
The Truth About Jesse Ventura’s Navy SEAL Status

I’ve heard the speculation and gossip about Jesse Ventura’s Navy SEAL status and wanted to set the record straight. Jesse Ventura graduated with Basic Underwater Demolition Class 58 and, like it or not, he earned his status. Some say he’s a UDT (Underwater Demolition Team), and not a “SEAL,” but that’s bull#. Others have seen the flaw in this analogy, and mentioned in private SEAL forums, “try telling that to a WWII UDT veteran who swam ashore before the landing craft on D-Day.” The UDT’s and SEALs are essentially one and the same. It’s why the UDT is still part of the training acronym BUD/S (Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL).
Like it or not, Jesse Ventura is a Navy SEAL. He did the pushups and put up with the cold water, just like the rest of us.

originally posted by: Drunkenparrot
It looks like Kris Kyle was telling the truth...

Witness in defamation suit says she saw Jesse Ventura get punched in bar

ST. PAUL, Minn. — A witness has testified in Jesse Ventura’s defamation lawsuit that she saw someone punch the former Minnesota governor at a bar in California in 2006.

Laura deShazo of Salt Lake City testified Monday she was at the pub in Coronado California, the night when slain “American Sniper” author Chris Kyle said he punched a man he called “Scruff Face.” Kyle later identified the man as Ventura.

DeShazo said she was in the bar to attend the wake for a friend of Kyle’s. While there, she, her sister and her brother’s girlfriend poses for a picture with Ventura.

DeShazo says she later saw Ventura get into a scuffle with other people at the bar, and saw a man punch Ventura.

She said she doesn’t know who threw the punch, but she gave a description that was consistent with Kyle.
Ventura testified that the punch never happened.

Looks like he wasn't telling the truth.

Jesse Ventura Gets Backing Of Former SEALs In Lawsuit Over “Punch” Hoax

Back in February, Kyle filed a petition to have the case moved to U.S. District Court in St. Paul. Ventura considered dropping the case but after being contacted by several prominent former US Navy Seals, was “ordered” to go ahead with the lawsuit after Kyle failed to agree to a settlement that would have seen him admit to lying and pay attorney fees. One of those ex-SEALs is Ventura’s former instructor, the widely respected Terry “Mother” Moy, owner of the bar where the incident is alleged to have occurred. After investigating the incident, Moy and his fellow SEALs confirmed that the event never took place and that Kyle had invented it to generate publicity for his book. An added reason for their support of Ventura is the fact that they are sick of seeing Navy SEALs stab each other in the back for profit, the former Governor of Minnesota told Infowars.

“If a former Governor within the SEAL community had been knocked down and hit and assaulted, it would have traveled through the SEAL community like wildfire,” said Ventura, pointing out how “absurd” it was for the incident only to come to light almost six years later. “He never hit me, I don’t even know who he is,” said Ventura, adding that if the incident had occurred the way Kyle described, there would be a police report, which there isn’t.