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originally posted by: canucks555
a reply to: milomilo
looks like there's trees coming through the disk, and it's upside down like a upright bowl. Odd photo, even odder story.
originally posted by: Rob48
originally posted by: canucks555
a reply to: milomilo
looks like there's trees coming through the disk, and it's upside down like a upright bowl. Odd photo, even odder story.
Yes, the trees show through. Looks like somebody spilt something on the negative to me, rather than it being a real object. In fact I'm pretty certain that's what it is. Anybody who has done darkroom developing will recognise the splash mark.
ETA rough translation:
"UFO hovering over the edge of a small lake near Anchorage, in Alaska. Photographed by Richard Beaulieu, who was alerted by the barking of his pack of 18 huskies. At the same time you can see the white vapours of mist above the lake. Photo was taken in the mid 1960s"
Max B. Miller was a young editor of a UFO journal quite properly named Saucers (1953-1960). In 1957 he published the paperback Flying Saucers: Fact or Fiction? (Trend, Los Angeles) and by 1967 he edited the illustrated, folio-sized book Flying Saucers Pictorial (Arizil Realty & Publishing, Tucson), where this image saw the light for the first time. Somehow, an associate to this last publication was August Roberts, a UFO fanatic who produced and helped to produce several photographic UFO hoaxes and fakes. My impression is that he is the clue behind this photograph,
Considering the zero credibility of Roberts and the notorious fact that no one else knows it as an actual UFO event, I believe I am not misguided in thinking that the image is either a fabrication or a mundane object that has been attempted to be passed off as a UFO.
in 2008, Nick Balaskas, from the Physics and Astronomy department of York University (Canada), commented the following on this photo:
Having taken many quick snapshots of the terrain through the closed windows of cars and airplanes, I think the suspected forest fire and flying saucer is simply a reflection of objects from inside. The fact that the flying saucer is transparent is in support of this view. As for the four very distinct dots on the flying saucer, they are much better resolved than the branches of the trees and all other objects in the picture.
Since there is uncertainty of the orientation of this picture slide, and there are other similar such very distinct dots on the image, I suspect that they are simply dust/dirt particles–something very common, even on properly stored and little used picture slides. Balaskas continued his disquisition with a clever point: Although I do not suspect that this picture was an intentional hoax…the fact that there are no comments at all about this alleged very close-up image of a flying saucer by the photographer or actual witnesses leads me to suspect that it was not even considered as depicting a UFO or some other unknown real object at the time the picture was taken until afterwards by others who later viewed this unusual picture (UFO Updates, September 3, 2008.)
originally posted by: GoShredAK
What is that picture?
Having lived in close proximity to Alaskan lakes most my life I can honestly say that image bares no resemblance to any physical environment I have ever encountered.
How will this photo survive within the severe scrutiny of ATS? Only time will tell.
Eta: I can see it is AK but where was this photo supposedly taken from?
A second assessment came from Chilean chemist and photographic expert Andrés Duarte, who provided this report: Just by watching at the picture, it is evident it is a dish. The image shows stems and leaves of small plants, located a few centimeters from the edge of a swamp or pond. The object is not transparent, it just has a metallic shine, and the apparent transparency effects are reflections and shadows of the plants on the shiny surface of the object. The object (UFO) seems to be a dish like the one I have added in the enclosed picture, where the two Anchorage images are compared with a plate.
Odds are that the picture shows a plain plate resting on the ground. As a conclusion, the date, location, witnesses, story, etc. are unconvincing and unproved and a fake, under the baton of “Augie” Roberts, is more than probable. (Thanks to Nick Balaskas, John English and Andrés Duarte.)
originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
It's something splashed on the negative. As another poster said, anyone who has spent any amount of time in a darkroom will recognize it.