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originally posted by: ImaFungi

originally posted by: KrzYma


this rotating light on the event horizon would be true if gravity would not delay the time.
I don't have any paper on this right now but the point is, bigger mass - slower time flow compared to space without any mass.

In this case, where the ship comes closer to the mass, the electrons move slower radiating longer EM waves.
Finally if it passes the event horizon, for the observer outside the time is frozen for the ship.
This means also no radiation comes from the ship, no light, nothing.

how exactly is time defined. Is time an inherent physical property of individual particles?

bravo you do hit some right notes every now and again.
Answer is yes

OK folks....lets take a breather here.

The personal snipes stop. For reference, should anyone have a question as to what is expected:

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If you can adhere to that, please continue discussing.

originally posted by: krash661

originally posted by: Arbitrageur
a reply to: krash661
Once again I don't have a problem with you questioning a source, but I can find more saying the same thing.
However once again you have failed to post a source which, according to you, is more accurate, and this I do have a problem with.
If I was pointing out a bad source I'd provide a better one.

if you want a source,
start with any accurate einstein relativity book.
or how about his actual papers if you can read german.
again anything i say can be found on any public publishing.
again start at,
arxiv. since you do not want to do the effort,
i'll post the link for you.
arxiv.org...
they're easily accessible. just look.
there's also a nasa public publishing,
ntrs.nasa.gov...
not only that but neurology and biology has public publishing.
SNIP!

edit on 8/15/2014 by bigfatfurrytexan because: ALL MEMBERS: We expect civility and decorum within all topics.

Entschuldigen Sie bitte. Ich habe ein wenige verwirrung.
If tier 1 embraces gr and yet they talk about anti gravity, which is a non sequitur in terms of gr.
How does tier 1 reconcile with anti gravity? I know you said something about 4th state of matter being important for producing anti gravity. Can you elaborate on that, if indeed you are allowed to do so, I might add.

originally posted by: ImaFungi
The only reason light traveling from point A to point B, of any equal straight line from point A to point B distance, would take longer than the speed of light, is if the space from point A to point B it was traveling in was curved. But in this situation, you want to say the time slows down? Instead of, 'it takes longer because the space is curved'.

you need to separate two things, longer distance, where light takes longer time to travel.
and slow down of time, where the distance is the same as if it was without any "slowing down" but light propagates slower.

I told you how slowing time works for me here
www.abovetopsecret.com...

EDIT
have a look at how light is slowed down in a medium


and this is the try to explain what Bose-Einstein condensate is


so basically if all atoms in one volume of matter act as if it was just one single atom you get the 5th state of matter, Bose-Einstein Condensate.

phys.org...

The phenomenon of time dilation is a strange yet experimentally confirmed effect of relativity theory. One of its implications is that events occurring in distant parts of the universe should appear to occur more slowly than events located closer to us. For example, when observing supernovae, scientists have found that distant explosions seem to fade more slowly than the quickly-fading nearby supernovae.

The effect can be explained because (1) the speed of light is a constant (independent of how fast a light source is moving toward or away from an observer) and (2) the universe is expanding at an accelerating rate, which causes light from distant objects to redshift (i.e. the wavelengths to become longer) in relation to how far away the objects are from observers on Earth. In other words, as space expands, the interval between light pulses also lengthens. Since expansion occurs throughout the universe, it seems that time dilation should be a property of the universe that holds true everywhere, regardless of the specific object or event being observed. However, a new study has found that this doesn’t seem to be the case - quasars, it seems, give off light pulses at the same rate no matter their distance from the Earth, without a hint of time dilation.

This quasar conundrum doesn’t seem to have an obvious explanation, although Hawkins has a few ideas. For some background, quasars are extreme objects in many ways: they are the most luminous and energetic objects known in the universe, and also one of the most distant (and thus, oldest) known objects. Officially called “quasi-stellar radio sources,” quasars are dense regions surrounding the central supermassive black holes in the centers of massive galaxies. They feed off an accretion disc that surrounds each black hole, which powers the quasars’ extreme luminosity and makes them visible to Earth.

I think this is interesting...
...and fitting into my "Picture of Universe"

originally posted by: krash661

Is this a back handed effort to tell us (yet again) that you want to quit this discussion because we are intellectually inferior to you? It is you prerogative to feel we are intellectually inferior to you -- and it is your prerogative to leave this discussion if you think we are a waste of your time; or it is even your prerogative to remain in the discussion. However, if you do decide to remain in the discussion, could you please answer the questions posed to you (questions that I found to be valid).


Here is a simple question that you have yet to answer:

You mentioned another state of matter -- something to do with antigravity maybe??? Anyway, you really didn't expand on the idea of that other state of matter, nor tell us what it was. Several people have asked you, but your response to the first person who asked was to (generally) say "I'm tired of the stupid people on this board, and I'm leaving".

So I will ask: Can you please describe to us the characteristics of this other form of matter? You mentioned it, then (for some reason) refused to describe it when someone asked you to do so. I'm not sure why you refused to answer (and instead resort to insults); it seemed like a valid follow-up question to me.

Also, as I asked before concerning your question about you and a mirror moving at the speed of light, do you agree that when time dilation is considered, the person and mirror moving at the speed of light (assuming they can move that fast, which is another issue), time dilation will allow the person to see his light hit the mirror at the "normal" speed of light. In fact, general relativity tells us that the person who thinks he's moving could just as validly say he was sitting still, relative to his point of reference, while the rest of the universe moved around him...

...So moving or not (again, relative to his frame of reference) the speed of light will always be the speed of light, and the light would always hit the mirror in the same amount of time relative to his observation.

Next simple question:
Do you agree with the above assessment or not? Do you agree that time dilation will allow the person who says they and their mirror are moving at the speed will see his light reach the mirror? if not, then why not.

The last time I asked you this, You basically told me that you refused to answer directly because I'm an idiot. I'm not sure why you take that route, but for the sake of civil discussion, could you just directly answer the specific questions people have posed to you?

editby]edit on 8/16/2014 by bigfatfurrytexan because: civility, please