An Eye Opening Look At Israel's Ugly History

a reply to: TheAlmo

One sided display there. Closed mind much?

I guess you missed the attacks that had virtually pushed Israel back to the beach before they broke through.

I guess you have missed all the suicide bombings perpetrated against the Israelis?

I guess you missed Hamas and Hezbollah attacks on Israel.

I guess you havent even begun to think what the US's response would be if someone were lobbing missiles at us, forcing 200 million people into shelters....

I guess you are so blinded to the truth that you fail to realize or recognize or refuse to recognize that both sides are guilty of much.

I guess that since your thinking is so ignorantly one-sided that ... well, I am going to stop short of comparing you to the likes of Hitler...but you get the drift.

Beginning in the late 1960's, the full weight of the UN was gradually but deliberately turned against the country it had conceived by General Assembly resolution a mere two decades earlier. The campaign to demonize and delegitimize Israel in every UN and international forum was initiated by the Arab states together with the Soviet Union, and supported by what has become known as an "automatic majority" of Third World member states.

The campaign reached new strength in wake of the Arab oil embargo of 1973, when many African states were pressured into severing relations with Israel. In 1975, following a steady drumbeat of anti-Israel declarations pushed through the International Women's Year Conference in Mexico and then the Organization of African Unity, the majority of the General Assembly adopted the "Zionism is Racism" resolution. At the same time, it instituted a series of related measures that together installed an infrastructure of anti-Israel propaganda throughout the UN. Years later, after strenuous efforts by democratic forces, the infamous resolution was repealed.

a reply to: HammyCat

Ha! Israel's ethnic cleansing....

For a country who has been "conducting ethnic cleansing" for the last 60, 70 years they sure are inept at it.

Heck, there are approximately 400 mosques in Israel.... Dayum...that like, totally ineffective ethnic cleansing.

Bigoted much?

a reply to: Expat888

Let's totally ignore Palestinian crimes against Humanity....By all means.

Anyone who doesn't believe that both sides are at fault are ignorant fools or racist pigs.

a reply to: bbracken677

It is not just I that said Ethnic Cleansing, many said and still say it because that is what is happening.

400 mosques in Israel? Want to show me a link to them cause last I had read

Israel has in the north - 6, central - 7,
West Bank - 20 , Gaza Strip - 12, East Jerusalem - 6
source - Archnet Digital Library

That is 51. No where near 400.

originally posted by: bbracken677

Anyone who doesn't believe that both sides are at fault are ignorant fools or racist pigs.

Yes I agree that both sides could do it different,

but I don't see Palestinian people shutting off water to Israel, or shutting off electricity, denying them basic needs of living.

Granted they (Israel) got in the news for bringing in aid a few days ago after shelling them for hours but it was aid that was confiscated just days before this (operation protective edge) .

I don't see people in Gaza Strip or the West Bank , having a blockade on Israels. Don't see them stopping them at check points, bulldozing their homes to settle down on new land they want.

I don't see the people in Gaza Strip or the West Bank crying to other countries getting billions in aid , and military machines. Bitching anytime anyone says they are wrong for doing something claiming that that person is Anti-Palestinian.

Let me guess Iran gave them the missiles, Syria gave them the missiles according to who ..... Israel.

Call me a bigot, call me a racist pig for not believing in the lies Israel tells the rest of the world.

You do realize how many Israelis agree that Israel is wrong in doing this.
Or as you might say "are you an ignorant fool or racist pig for not seeing this?"

I'm so with you on that. We're on fact basis here. Emotions are related to facts. Example:

If you see a red pedestrian traffic light and still cross it, it's not anyone's fault you're crippled. That's fact. You don't obey the rules which are by any other words, warning for a forthcoming danger.

Another aspect to look at is, why won't the driver brake when he saw someone crossing eventhough there is a person who might 'overlooked' the pedestrian light?

We humans, don't operate on facts and objectified statements alone. We have sentiments. When somebody waves the issue off as...it's the Palestinian's fault, please read more about the issue. For a person who had been collecting facts over the course of time, I respect TheAlmo. But facts are nothing without opinions. It's just an undeveloped photo. I read somewhere in another post that, Israel have the right to fend off terrorism against their territory cause they legally bought the land. Are you sure they did it legally? If it is true, does it mean that they can 'legally' kill people as they wish? Did you think there would be freedom-fighters bombing Tel Aviv without reasons? Look deeper into the matter and revise the sources you take them from. Don't take things as it is. Cause...as the other forum participant said, Israel is rich enough to have bought a country for themselves. What makes you think they haven't bought the media and the politicians? Yeah...you think that they're smart survivalist. Well, it depends on your integrity. One's life is just as important as the person next to him. UN should have never put their hands in the matter of partitioning the land and giving them off to the Jews. The borders have increased over time to the point that the original native Palestinians are living on scattered plots of lands. Some refute rights being given to the Palestinians saying that the Arabs only attack cause they want back the fertile land and water source that Israel had cleansed. Are you for real? Israel took over BECAUSE the land was fertile. Palestinian farmers had already been working on the land for so long. This war goes beyond modern world people. I don't think I can explain it here without people bashing my opinion about it. But, it's all about defending beliefs and faith. And people who look from the sides shouldn't be as ignorant as to belittle such notion. Palestinians could only take so much of bombs and guns...the rape of their sisters and mothers...the death of their children. Are Israel's children more important than the Palestinians?

originally posted by: bbracken677
a reply to: HammyCat

Ha! Israel's ethnic cleansing....

For a country who has been "conducting ethnic cleansing" for the last 60, 70 years they sure are inept at it.

Heck, there are approximately 400 mosques in Israel.... Dayum...that like, totally ineffective ethnic cleansing.

Bigoted much?

It is Ethnic cleansing! It's just done in a slow way to make it look like it's not Ethnic Cleansing! Some people are just too stupid to see the obvious!

Aside from that why is Israel blowing up Palestinian Children right now? Oh yes that's right! Because of a False Flag they created to make it look like the Palestinians were guilty. False Flags are a US thing. Israel is just copying them. If the US can get away with killing nearly 3,000 of their own people on 9/11 then Israel can get away with killing 3 of their own to justify an attack on the Palestinians! Disgusting Zionist Jews!

The Palestinians just want to live their lives without Israeli Terrorists raining bombs down on their children!



This attack on the Palestinians is a one sided attack. Just as the Holocaust created by the Zionists along with Hitler was a one sided attack on the Jews. People who think otherwise obviously have a screw loose!

This is GENOCIDAL MURDER! Something the US and Zionists are good at!

a reply to: Hilux1996

By your definition then, the Arab countries, including Palestinians are conducting genocide against Israel, and "some people are too stupid to see it. "

Dude, if you cannot debate without resorting to name calling you need to give it up.

Both sides are guilty of all kinds of crimes, and if you truly cannot see that then you should examine your bigoted bias and open your mind.

Anyone who would send their children into jewish areas as suicide bombers are hardly innocent. Your failure to recognize that identifies you squarely.

One sided attack? What about the rockets Hamas is launching into Israeli cities? That was what launched the Israeli attacks... Or is that a fiction? If you claim it is a fiction, then please provide your sources.

Oh...and false flag? Is this a gut feeling for you? Do you have any evidence or are you just pulling that out of your yahoo?

a reply to: bbracken677

So are you saying your a Zionist Supporter? And that Israel can do no wrong?

Oh your right! Israel is the victim yet again! The Zionist controllers of Israel are always being attacked by the people of the Middle East! Especially the Palestinians who have no Army, Air Force and Navy and they have no Nuclear Weapons and Chemical Weapons. Unlike Israel who have all and have used them bar the Nukes! So Far!

And by the way. Anyone that would aid and assist a Nazi Dictator like Adolf Hitler in the killing of the very people they are supposed to be representing (Jewish Holocaust) are hardly the victims of anything!

a reply to: Hilux1996

##SNIPPED##

Israel AND Palestine are both guilty. BOTH. Understand both? Nice word..when used in conjunction with 2 groups, it is all inclusive.

Anyone who cannot see that (and even after I post that, want to call me a "Zionist supporter") has serious issues.

You really did not answer my question regarding the Hamas missiles.

Would you like for me to list the number of times palestinians have killed Israeli civilians?

The thing is, you are totally focused on one side while giving the other a complete pass...

originally posted by: bbracken677
a reply to: Hilux1996


Oh...and false flag? Is this a gut feeling for you? Do you have any evidence or are you just pulling that out of your yahoo?

(I believe it's about 3 Israeli teenagers)

how did Netanyahu "know" it is Hamas?

he had GUT FEELING???

so no investigation is needed?

to instigate some good old violence?

because Palestinians were finally united in government?

did Netanyahu had GUT FEELING when he said: "It was Hamas, they will pay"?

but that "gut feeling" is probably different from "gut feeling" of the member on ATS or "gut feeling" of a Palestinian?

I am asking is that GUT FEELING is somehow more righteous and there is no need for evidence?

a reply to: bbracken677

Israhell is guilty of Genocide! Palestine is guilty of trying to defend itself from an almighty force fed by Fascist America!

The rockets that have been fired by Hamas are no better than fire crackers. It makes me wonder if Hamas is working for Israhell!

The Palestinians don't have a hope in hell to defend themselves especially after that rogue Terrorist Sate Israel has taken more and more of their lands and left them in an open air concentration camp!

Israeli victims? Not much! But then you'll be listening to Zionist controlled BBC and CNN.

Most of the slaughter is at the Palestinian end!

originally posted by: bbracken677
a reply to: Expat888

Let's totally ignore Palestinian crimes against Humanity....By all means.

Anyone who doesn't believe that both sides are at fault are ignorant fools or racist pigs.

thank you for painting it black and white for us, it is so much easier now.

but of course! both sides are equally guilty...

why even go deeper into the matter, there was never in history good and bad side, it was always in the middle; it was always fault of both sides.

please moderators, close the thread - both Israel and Palestine are equally guilty;

this magnificent participant had it all figured out for us so we don't have to THINK ourselves.

a reply to: demus

Ok...so what do you call it when Palestinians set off suicide bombs in busses loaded with civilians?
What do you call it when Hamas moves in rocket launchers and hides them in schools and mosques and the palestinians say nothing?

If 2/3 of the American population took refuge in bomb shelters due to incoming missiles, just how the F would you expect the US to react? Any freaking country for that matter? To deny that simple fact would be disingenuous at the very least. But then, some people like to jam their heads in the sand or cover their ears and make irritating noises hoping the questions will go away.

I might also ask, what came first, Hamas firing missiles, or Israel attacking Gaza? (this current go round).

You are a jew hater and that is clear by your every post. You cannot see shades of grey...only black and white. The sign of a closed and bigoted mind. An open mind would recognize that the palestinians also have a dog in this race....that they have contributed immensely to the problems.

Funny but when the palestinians, Hamas and Hezbollah are quiet and not attacking Israel is not responding either.

Rather then ignore my questions and just posting sarcastic crap, which proves nothing except what kind of character you have, try responding to some of my questions.

originally posted by: bbracken677
I might also ask, what came first, Hamas firing missiles, or Israel attacking Gaza? (this current go round).

Is it not a mite arbitrary for you to reset the clock to 'this go round'? Those who are immediately affected might take issue with your convenient short-sightedness.

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck
This particular history seems to be rewritten/reset often.

I'ts the way.

a reply to: buster2010

Buster! You of all people spreading Palestinian Propaganda!!!! What the hell is this????? It is one thing to be against the govt. of a country but quite another to invoke a machine like HAMAS!!! Really equated Israel to Nazi Germany! If that is NOT pure propaganda I do not know what is!!

You can do so much better than this!!

Pax

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck
This particular history seems to be rewritten/reset often. It's the way.

...which is why they're caught in a loop. Some serious issues with the signal to noise ratio. Lots of players here...including the regular cadre of useful idiots (read 'shrill and one-dimensional').
Cui bono?

Any idiot can see what is going on between the Rogue Terrorist State of Israel and the the Concentration Camp Gaza!



And George Galloway talking to Sky News about Israel invading Lebanon. Israel again showing they are the aggressors not the victims!



Lol it is a little too obvious!

And Sky News get's a bashing!