Hamas Spokesman on CNN

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: soulwaxer
Thank you. You just showed your true colours.
You are a racist! You just proved that.

Grow up. 'Out of control zoo monkeys with brain fever' is a term from facebook. It refers to groups of people ... ANY group of people .... acting foolishly. And if you knew the ethnic makeup of my family, you'd know how absurd your statement is. Deflection attempt on your part = FAILURE.

A term from Facebook?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It's really all about 2 issues.

Palestinian statehood and Israel treating the Palestinian people with respect. That there is no Palestinian state is proof that Israel doesn't want one...they don't even want Palestine recognized by the UN or anything like that. The big question then becomes why? Security? We could work out security. It could certainly be done in this day and age with all of our technology and with everyone involved.

Secondly...the race riots, the beating of the Palestinian American, the random bombings killing innocent civilians the settlements, that Palestinians living in Israel don't have the same rights? That's pathetic, that is apartheid and that is why there is continuing problems.

Not advocating violence but as has been posted by others before.

If you, as Americans, were treated with the same disrespect as the Palestinian people are being treated, you would be shooting rockets into Israel as well...doing everything you could to get your freedom back. You just would.

I fully support the BDS movement. Why was it not okay in South Africa, but okay in Palestine?

a reply to: soulwaxer
Check an urban dictionary. 2014 edition. So do you actually have anything that can stand on this thread about the subject as to why the Hamas spokesperson, who was hired to be a spokesperson for the group, would agree to an interview with CNN, and then refuse to condemn the murder of three teens? We wait to see ....

Never mind ... it's useless ....

The truth about muhammad isn't hate or lies. It's just truth. Deal with it.

This is your flawed opinion.

That has been refuted many times

originally posted by: KnowledgeSeeker81
a reply to: DarknStormy
LITERALLY every time this comes up the headlines read Israel RESPONDS TO, or Israel REACTS, or Israel RETALIATES.

Stop firing rockets into Israel and they wont respond...

Tell the Israelis to get off the land that they stole and to pay all the Palestinian victims' families that they murder, torture and rape before they leave Palestine.


On topic
I'd say this guy is a mossad creation, Anderson Cooper probably wrote his transcript to read while on air. I can see CNN producers and owners all LOL while elbowing each other in the ribs while this puppet reads his lines. Obvious is obvious and ridiculous.

a reply to: amazing
YOU CAN'T , America is SPARTA these days or what would pass for it now. We are trying to stop it from the inside but these PSYCHOTIC politics are in the way. We don't want EVERYONE to go SPARTA in America either, it really screws your head up to war against others. and it's quite rude.

ENOUGH. Any further off topic posts about members will result in post bans...at the least.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Do you bother to read posts before cherry picking a sentence so you can have an argumentative reply? The spokesman answered the question but he did not do so in a manner appropriate to the interviewer. I said as much in the reply you chose to cherry pick. The spokesman alluded to the point of view that they did not do it. Why would anyone approve or disapprove of something they claimed to not be involved in? Doing so alludes to a guilty conscience if nothing else.

originally posted by: My_Reality
Why would anyone approve or disapprove of something they claimed to not be involved in?

Are you kidding? I guess you've never watched a White House press briefing, eh?

Entities around the world are always asked if they condemn actions of other entities. The USA is always asked if they approve or condemn actions of Israel or Russia or China or _____, etc. (Actions that the USA has nothing to do with). The UN votes on condemning actions around the world that that it has nothing to do with. Israel came out and condemned the murder of the Palestinian youth last week. It had nothing to do with the murder and yet it condemned it.

Hamas wants to play in the big league with everyone else. They have to make a stand on issues and make that stand known. Do they or do they not support the murder of the three Israeli teens? The spokesman, whose job it is to let people know the position of Hamas on different issues, agreed to an interview with CNN. And then the spokesman refused to condemn the murders. It was a very simple question that easily could have been answered. It's his job.

a reply to: My_Reality


I think it is utterly DEVASTATING what emotion and prior commitments can do to reason.

You didn't "interpret it" like that? Seriously. Seriously?!! Please. Ok. I'm calmer. Please answer me this hypothetical. It's important.

You're talking to a good friend and you ask them: did you sleep with my girlfriend. He doesn't answer. You ask again: "hey, did you hear me? Did you sleep with my girlfriend? He answers: "I haven't taken money from you".

HUh? Huh? You must be wondering. You asked one question and he sidestepped it altogether. Why?

Unless you are intellectual infant, or nave, you will probably understand (as an adult) that emotional dynamics control and organize human awareness. By not answering the question and by offering an answer to a question that wasn't asked (I hope you're still following me) he is ADMITTING, without saying so, just be doing what he's doing, to the presence of an emotion that cannot answer that question.

The emotion in the above example is: "Yes, I'm ashamed. I slept with your girlfriend".

In this case, by not answering the simply direct question, the Hamas spokesman is saying "yes, we approve". And in fact, it should be obvious. The question IS designed to entrap him, but just by being asked the question and answering by his diversion to answer ITSELF CONSTITUTES AN ANSWER.

And of course it expresses something all informed onlookers know: Hamas approves of the kidnapping. Just as they approve and regularly carry out terror attacks against the most vulnerable of Israelis citizenry.

The question is, can you integrate this fact? This is what interests me, and at the same time, depresses me. It depresses me because I already know (at least probabilistically) how you will respond. Failure to respond. To integrate and relate to the information rationally and patiently. Looking out for the presence of ulterior motives: the influence of ego and self-coherence on the views I take.

Just as an intellectual thought experiment, try it. See how you feel in acceding to what i've written. Is it easy, or do you feel a visceral repulsion to it?

But, you know what. Let's assume he did what you said he did. I would rather have to deal with a person who admits to a killing(s) as opposed to a person that carries out killing(s) and lies about it. The way I interpret what you are saying goes like this: It's OK if a faction kills people as long as they lie about and sidestep the issue.

I don't know. i'm reminded of a statement I once read attributed to Hitler, that as fervent as national socialism could be, he found that Islam was able to mobilize the passions and galvanize action far quicker and stronger than anything the Nazis could unleash.

So, in that sense, I strongly disagree with you. I am more afraid of someone who believes his evil actions reflect some intrinsic and superior moral awareness to the criminal who acts wrongly but at least understands that his behavior is wrong.

Lying reflects a tacit concession to the other sides moral standards. In this sense, they recognize that they are 'below' challenging the status quo. Islamists, on the other, make no effort in the least bit to acknowledge the morality of the west. They genuinely (and asininely) believe that their ethic is superior to ours. And they would. They're chauvinistic. They've been out of the loop and outside the process that the west has gone through. One could well argue that Islam is frozen in the middle ages; or as a political philosophy, Islamism is consonant with the totalitarian creeds of the early 20th century: nazism, leninism, maoism, etc.

The west has learned from it's mistakes and has adopted a more reasonable and responsible conception of the human condition. Islam still thinks, very stupidly, that the world is as the Quran and Sura describe it. They wholeheartedly think that Islams triumph is around the corner. Realistically speaking, people who've exposed themsleves to other world views appreciate how utterly unreasonable this fixation is.