The Christian right seeks cultural and political domination

We are a Corporate Theocracy now: The Christian right seeks cultural and political domination

And The Christian Right has been seeking it for some time.

There is no conspiracy theory here. Their strategy is evidently clear and unashamedly boasted. Their strategy is to control state and federal legislatures, and the courts – in a way that says, “We don’t care what the American people want. We write the laws, and those laws will not reflect the wishes of the center majority, but instead will cater only for the theological cranks within our ranks.”

In state after state, the nation’s theocrats are fighting and defeating America’s secular sense of self. The Christian Right has not only moved from the fringes to become the main strain of the Republican Party; it is the Republican Party.

“The results of this takeover are all around us: If the American people poll more like Iranians and Nigerians than Europeans or Canadians on questions of evolution, scriptural inerrancy, the presence of angels and demons, and so forth, it is due to the rise of the religious right, its insertion into the public square by the Republican Party, and the consequent normalizing of formerly reactionary beliefs,” observes Mike Lofgren, who spent 28 years in Congress as a Republican.

These radicals continually surprise America for the fact that the mainstream media and casual political observers mistakenly believe these theocrats represent the minority fringe. You cannot sugarcoat the fact that it was a majority of Republicans in Arizona’s Senate who voted for the anti-gay bill. Likewise it was a majority of Republicans in Kansas’ House who voted for a similar bill.

They voted for these religiously motivated discrimination bills because the Christian Right wish to discriminate against individuals they claim the Bible deems abhorrent.

The American Taliban is on a roll, and the Republican National Committee is seeking to capitalize on the Christian Right’s renewed energy, which has been fueled by victory in the Supreme Court. Last week, the RNC launched its first web-based effort to rally social conservatives and evangelicals as a key cornerstone of the party’s efforts to retake the Senate in the coming November elections.

If we weren't already seen as having lost our collective minds (which we were), we can now see why the rest of the world watches the United States and thinks:
"What the hell is WRONG with those people?"

Well - friendly foreigners - the government and Bible Belt have us hog-tied.

For my part, I'm embarrassed, enraged, and damn glad I'm beyond child-bearing years. Others are cheering, celebrating, eyes heavenward.

I became aware of the "New Apostolic Reformation" and the linked "Seven Mountain Dominionists" in spring of last year.
At the time, I was gobsmacked. They had been working beneath the radar for some time, I learned, and I thought: This can't be real. This has to be an exaggeration. They can't possibly do that. This is a secular country.

Well, they're doing it.
Some of you will be delighted, I'm sure....as we've seen round these parts since the ruling about Hobby Lobby.


But no. It IS real. The governor of Kansas is one of them - thank God he is being driven OUT of office now for his failed libertarian policies - but make no mistake.

People like Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, Sam Brownback, Rick Perry, some of the Supreme Court, and many other prominent government types have gotten enough power together to actually pull it off. These people ARE the equivalent of the Taliban.

I am aghast. Horrified.

The Hobby Lobby case is yet another reminder that those who wish to transform America’s secular democracy into a tyrannical theocracy are on the march.

I feel more hopeless every day. And this all started in 1975...some guys had it "revealed" to them in Colorado.


There's a video on the link to the Seven Mountain Dominionists - watch it if you can. I'd link it from youtube, but the youtube video contains other stuff, too.

What are the "Mountains"?

In 1975, Bill Bright, founder of Campus Crusade, and Loren Cunningham, founder of Youth With a Mission, had lunch together in Colorado. God simultaneously gave each of these change agents a message to give to the other. During that same time frame Francis Schaeffer was given a similar message. That message was that if we are to impact any nation for Jesus Christ, then we would have to affect the seven spheres, or mountains of society that are the pillars of any society.

These seven mountains are business, government, media, arts and entertainment, education, the family and religion. There are many subgroups under these main categories. About a month later the Lord showed Francis Schaeffer the same thing. In essence, God was telling these three change agents where the battlefield was. It was here where culture would be won or lost. Their assignment was to raise up change agents to scale the mountains and to help a new generation of change agents understand the larger story.

Is this the kind of "revealed religion" that helps the world, ATS?

What do you make of it?

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Everything you write or you quote, I could take out Christian right and put in Leftists and it would apply just as much.

There is no conspiracy theory here. Their strategy is evidently clear and unashamedly boasted. Their strategy is to control state and federal legislatures, and the courts – in a way that says, “We don’t care what the American people want. We write the laws, and those laws will not reflect the wishes of the center majority, but instead will cater only for the socialist cranks within our ranks.”

Just as one example.

These seven mountains are business, government, media, arts and entertainment, education, the family and religion.

In the video, the man says that BUSINESS is the most important "Mountain." Eegads.
Help us.

a reply to: ketsuko

Everything you write or you quote, I could take out Christian right and put in Leftists and it would apply just as much.

Not hardly, lady. Not hardly. You maybe ought to read a bit more than you do. And leave the Bible alone for a while.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Yes, and Obama's most important legislation - Obamacare - is fascist bill. Fascism is where the government controls the private businesses so tightly through regulation or other means that they might as well be government controlled. The means of "saving" the auto industry also saw government taking ownership stakes in two of the big three with union labor getting significant ownership stakes also. So, BUSINESS as tightly controlled by the state is a very big part of this administration. Are you contending that this administration is really a RIGHT WING THEOCRATIC one?

a reply to: ketsuko

Whatever, but why did you say

No.

The thread is about the Theocrats. Not about "me".

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: ketsuko

Everything you write or you quote, I could take out Christian right and put in Leftists and it would apply just as much.

Not hardly, lady. Not hardly. You maybe ought to read a bit more than you do. And leave the Bible alone for a while.

Really? You're accusing me of not reading?

I'd wager I read far more than you know, and not just that evil ole' Bible that you're so afraid of.

a reply to: ketsuko

So, BUSINESS as tightly controlled by the state is a very big part of this administration. Are you contending that this administration is really a RIGHT WING THEOCRATIC one?

No. You obviously didn't read the article, or look at the other sites.

It isn't the "administration" - it's Congress and the Supreme Court, Governors in several states, loudmouths like Limbaugh, Beck, and others. I'm no fan of this 'administration' - but that's because of their foreign policy and warmongering.
I know, though, you're all about profit.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Because your premise is not correct. The theocracy has been a major boogeyman for as long as I've been interested in politics. It's been used a justification for so many progressive power grabs that it's not even funny. Don't vote for them, they won't pay for your birth control, but because we pay for it, we can now dictate everything about it because we pay the bills. So much for your right to privacy or choice ... you voted for it though because you thought not having to pay for it was actually freedom.

a reply to: ketsuko

Yes, and Obama's most important legislation - Obamacare - is fascist bill.

That was Romney's brainchild.

Are you going to address the OP and topic, or simply troll and insult me?
If the latter, kindly move along.

Corporate Theocracy? I find that hilarious. The men and women we send to kill in other countries arent even allowed to openly practice their religion anymore. People are being sued for not wanting to provide business services at gay weddings. You might have had a point 30 years ago. These are the politically correct days and it's open season on christians. Any fringe group that feels like they were bullied over the years because people didnt accept their lifestyle choices is trying to strike back. Logically people are pushing back. That health care law shouldn't even exist. All its doing is funneling a bunch of money to people who already have too much to begin with.

An overwhelming majority of people in this nation are Christian. There is no getting around that. Short of genocide there will be no getting around that. Maybe if people such as yourself would stop poking at people and trying to change their way of life people wouldnt be "on the march". At the rate we are going the U.S. is gonna be all rainbows and robots within the next decade.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

What's the Christian Left doing, while this is going on? Just curious.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

This has been the PNAC plan all along. Even with all the Conservative hand wringing over the antichrist socialist obama in office the neocons haven't lost control over the big picture.

In fact their strategy is brilliant... to control and use religion, politics of division, propaganda, wars and media to shape and form a society and nation into their grand design; truely a New World Order!

from a futurist and cultural anthropology stand point it's fascinating to watch. From a humanist perspective it's getting increasingly ugly. It's also fun to watch the social conservatives applaud this trend thinking it will usher in a new "freedom" when the intent is exactly the opposite.

I to am glad I don't have any kids to witness this mess. In fact I think I'll go and watch America sink into a corporate, Christian styled fascism from a beach in the BWI.

a reply to: BlueMule

What's the Christian Left doing, while this is going on? Just curious.

What do YOU think they are doing? As far as I can tell, they are trying to restore balance. And making sure that no one is disenfranchised.

It wouldn't be so bad if they weren't Christians in name only.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

You obviously have been reading sites that grossly misrepresent what the actual ruling means which is most of them. If you haven't been reading what the excellent posters here have been saying about it, then I can't help you.

We are not about to descend into a theocracy because the SCOTUS said that a family cannot be forced to use their own private property against their moral conscience.

If you work for a publically held company like McD's or WalMart ... you have nothing to worry about. They are not a privately held business which is then considered the private property of the family who owns it.

Also, Hobby Lobby provides and always has provided 16 of the 20 forms of birth control listed in the mandate. They objected to 4 of them. What the SCOTUS further saw is that HHS had already carved out a means of exemption for nonprofits that could have then been applied to businesses like Hobby Lobby, but HHS said no they'd rather tax them out of business for resisting. The SCOTUS decided that as an exemption has been made, there existed a less onerous means of allowing businesses like Hobby Lobby to comply with the law that the government was simply not allowing them to use ... and it was not the only way to create a less onerous burden for the company to follow the law. So, they ruled in favor of the company.

Additionally, they did not use the 1st Amendment in their ruling. Instead, they used a piece of legislation called the Religious Freedom Restoration Act. This piece of legislation was passed during the Clinton administration with the votes of all but two Democrats and one Republican and signed by President Clinton. So, this is hardly a tool of the so-called far Right Religious Theocracy. In fact, the law was passed in reaction to another SCOTUS ruling that held that Native Americans could not smoke peyote and claim they were doing it for religious reasons and claim 1st Amendment protection.

There is no conspiracy theory here. Their strategy is evidently clear and unashamedly boasted. Their strategy is to control state and federal legislatures, and the courts – in a way that says, “We don’t care what the American people want.

I can only assume the writer of the article was talking about Obama here.

The Christian Right has not only moved from the fringes to become the main strain of the Republican Party; it is the Republican Party.

How exactly?

it is due to the rise of the religious right

Was this article written during the crusades? Religion is becoming less and less relevant in society, has been for awhile.

These radicals continually surprise America for the fact that the mainstream media and casual political observers mistakenly believe these theocrats represent the minority fringe. You cannot sugarcoat the fact that it was a majority of Republicans in Arizona’s Senate who voted for the anti-gay bill

Because I'm sure that was a unanimous decision involving every single right winger/Christian.

They voted for these religiously motivated discrimination bills

You know, those bills. Details aren't important.

The American Taliban

Obama administration?

became aware of the "New Apostolic Reformation" and the linked "Seven Mountain Dominionists" in spring of last year.

Ohhhh no, we're doomed. For the "New Apostolic Reformation" Facebook page is here, with a whopping 400 likes...

People like Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, Sam Brownback, Rick Perry, some of the Supreme Court, and many other prominent government types have gotten enough power together to actually pull it off. These people ARE the equivalent of the Taliban.

Does that even mean anything? Why and how are they equivalent to the Taliban?

a reply to: ketsuko

This is not just about Hobby Lobby and their backward zeal. And yes, I did read the threads, though I doubt you were ever trying to "help me."

Also, this is not "my" premise.

The article is posted from Global Possibilities.