M.I.B. and the reality matrix.

In the modern era since at least the 1940's. When considering U.F.O. sightings, many have been accompanied by what could be called a secondary effect. Which entails that the observer days after the event has been approached by entities, either one two or three persons, that warn the observer not to talk about the incident. The encounter comes with dire warnings, threats etc. which are hardly ever carried out. The reports usually ,have the beings dressed in black suits and sunglasses, riding in old fashioned cars. Pale skins ,no observable body hair. The encounters suggest that the entities know as much about the original U.F.O. sighting as the original witness.... If they know as much about the original sighting as the original witness, then its reasonable to assume that they were tied up with the original sighting? and were doing something that either they or their superiors didn't want witnessed. So we assume they have made a mistake and are required to get the Observer by fair means or foul to say nothing or recant the observation. Can we assume that unreported incidents are far more in reality, because their methods have indeed silenced many reports.

But not all reports have been silenced and ignored, so the strategy hasn't worked. You would have thought that other worldly. or trans dimensional beings would get what they want. Which seems to be the "control of the perception of reality" If we look at all reported U.F.O. sightings as reality incursions/glitches in the matrix if you like. This would include most paranormal phenomenon, to which the M.I.B. also seem to turn up for. Or at least entities very similar.

Or are we dealing with something, that has been around for eons in many guises controlling and nudging our narrow perception of reality. strangegr.tripod.com...

a reply to: anonentity

I clicked on this because I'm a huge fan of the movies, and the art storytelling.

If there is truly a coverup, it is (in my own opinion) psychologically brilliant for those who'd want to orchestrate such a coverup to encourage the proliferation of 'fictional' tales that may as well be biographical. That way, a "whistleblower" trying to "wake up" the "sheeple" is met only with guffaws of "someone's been watching too many movies." Or, similarly, pollute the nöosphere with completely insane alternative theories (Aliens Did 9/11 etc.) A brilliant tactic, really. Too bad no reading these words will remember…

I had an encounter with a very odd person the night after I had seen some strange lights. I was walking to the store late at night. A white truck pulled up and turned on flashing amber lights like I have never seen. I walked over to the window and asked what was up. The driver looked like a normal caucasian male. He was wearing a light colored uniform type shirt. The first thing that stood out as odd is he was wearing sunglasses. He told me he was a security guard for the neighborhood. This struck me as odd. I had never heard of such a thing. I told him I was just walking to the store to grab some beers. Then he asked me "So, you been seeing any u.f.o.'s?" I told him that as a matter of fact I had. Then he asked me if I was a musician. I am. He said he was a musician, too, and then diverted the conversation into the subject of music theory. After a few minutes I told him I hated to be rude, but I needed to get to the store before midnight. He said goodbye and I never saw or heard from 'neighborhood security' again.

originally posted by: johnsequitur1221
a reply to: anonentity

I clicked on this because I'm a huge fan of the movies, and the art storytelling.

If there is truly a coverup, it is (in my own opinion) psychologically brilliant for those who'd want to orchestrate such a coverup to encourage the proliferation of 'fictional' tales that may as well be biographical. That way, a "whistleblower" trying to "wake up" the "sheeple" is met only with guffaws of "someone's been watching too many movies." Or, similarly, pollute the nöosphere with completely insane alternative theories (Aliens Did 9/11 etc.) A brilliant tactic, really. Too bad no reading these words will remember…

I had exactly the same thought regards to fictionalising a real event to cover up a real one. Also I might add removing as many thoughts about a said occurrence from the Noosphere before it became or went critical, and effected reality.
I also had the thought that their were many reports of phone contact with a U.F.O. observer as well warning of consequences. Added to the fact that disembodied entities have been known to use the phone line. Very reminiscent of warnings with regards to playing around with the occult.

It just makes me think that the M.I.B.'s are like the modern cultural paradigm for , and a materialisation from the next stage of evolution. Or the next reality, patching up this one where required.

The U.F.O. may not be a hard wired interstellar ship. Most are fuzzy light or Orbs, that could be changing or repairing the fabric of the matrix of our reality. Then an observer assuming this, might send the enquirer on a wild goose chase.

originally posted by: skunkape23
I had an encounter with a very odd person the night after I had seen some strange lights. I was walking to the store late at night. A white truck pulled up and turned on flashing amber lights like I have never seen. I walked over to the window and asked what was up. The driver looked like a normal caucasian male. He was wearing a light colored uniform type shirt. The first thing that stood out as odd is he was wearing sunglasses. He told me he was a security guard for the neighborhood. This struck me as odd. I had never heard of such a thing. I told him I was just walking to the store to grab some beers. Then he asked me "So, you been seeing any u.f.o.'s?" I told him that as a matter of fact I had. Then he asked me if I was a musician. I am. He said he was a musician, too, and then diverted the conversation into the subject of music theory. After a few minutes I told him I hated to be rude, but I needed to get to the store before midnight. He said goodbye and I never saw or heard from 'neighborhood security' again.

So on a night you saw some lights up there, you met a strange one? what are the odds. Was he checking on what you actually saw, "UFO ok" if something else then another tactic might be required.

a reply to: skunkape23

Wow, that is a "textbook" case and goofy enough to sound believable. Having weird people show up after a ufo sighting... is more common than most think.

If it is an actual, connected occurrence, then what the heck? Who are they and why the nonsensical contact?

We had an encounter which made me think that the government studies such phenomenon, and tries to do so discretely. The more far out ideas of the Men in Black being ET's or something serves them well, and they probably don't hesitate to put forth a weird and mysterious appearence.

The idea that they are up on all the UFO type of activity, and somehow involved in it deeply also serves them, by wrapping them in an image of power and knowledge, but I suspect they are not so knowledgeable as that...

Our encounter happened after I had published online an account of my experiences with a sighting and abduction type. It followed a period of having a drone circling our yard and house regularly.

I suspect they just look into these things and try to keep their heads low.

originally posted by: Bluesma
We had an encounter which made me think that the government studies such phenomenon, and tries to do so discretely. The more far out ideas of the Men in Black being ET's or something serves them well, and they probably don't hesitate to put forth a weird and mysterious appearence.

The idea that they are up on all the UFO type of activity, and somehow involved in it deeply also serves them, by wrapping them in an image of power and knowledge, but I suspect they are not so knowledgeable as that...

Our encounter happened after I had published online an account of my experiences with a sighting and abduction type. It followed a period of having a drone circling our yard and house regularly.

I suspect they just look into these things and try to keep their heads low.

I found this one interesting, it gives a summary of M.I.B. 's Then it seems the observers immediate family gets a follow up visit. What I found interesting was that in the "They knew to much about flying saucers" Nobody would believe the explanation, of the Astral travel to an alien base in Antarctica. But having a fair knowledge of out of body reports whether OBBE's N.D.E. etc and even the few reported cases of people having ingested marine neurotoxin, who have appeared dead and report hovering around their body. Adding that South American Indians also use a plant extract to go Astral so to speak to find their way in deep jungle when lost. We could be missing the biggest clue, that perhaps a totally different set of criterion exist in the out of body environment. That us flesh bound beings are unable to comprehend, and when we do its only in fleeting bits.

The total taboo around death, the superstition and resulting religious knowledge might be the main reason we are in a "Don't go there frame of mind" The fear which precludes a scientific non dogmatic enquiry. Because if its an understood fact that when the "body machine" wears out and you just carry on. We could be talking about another world you wake up in when the realisation hits you. The two worlds might be best kept apart, so their is less disturbance in the force? ufoevidence.org...

originally posted by: skunkape23
I had an encounter with a very odd person the night after I had seen some strange lights. I was walking to the store late at night. A white truck pulled up and turned on flashing amber lights like I have never seen. I walked over to the window and asked what was up. The driver looked like a normal caucasian male. He was wearing a light colored uniform type shirt. The first thing that stood out as odd is he was wearing sunglasses. He told me he was a security guard for the neighborhood. This struck me as odd. I had never heard of such a thing. I told him I was just walking to the store to grab some beers. Then he asked me "So, you been seeing any u.f.o.'s?" I told him that as a matter of fact I had. Then he asked me if I was a musician. I am. He said he was a musician, too, and then diverted the conversation into the subject of music theory. After a few minutes I told him I hated to be rude, but I needed to get to the store before midnight. He said goodbye and I never saw or heard from 'neighborhood security' again.

I think it is worth noting that this guy seemed very friendly. Nothing ominous about him. He was probably in his mid-30's. Sandy blonde hair and wearing a baseball cap. He really perked up when he gathered that I was familiar with the Lydian Dominant scale. I didn't really think about how weird it was until afterward. This did occur in Austin, TX, however. The place is a magnet for the otherly-saned types.

I have a man in black story. After my UFO sighting and missing time episode when I was 19, I was staying with my mother. I was walking from the bedroom and down the hall into the living room. To my immediate right was a man dressed all in black, a hat, long dark hair sitting on the couch. I turned and looked at him, and it was the strangest thing because he smiled at me, and I returned the smile. It was a familiar feeling. I remember saying, "Don't I know you?". I blinked and he was gone. Poof. Vanished. Abracadabra. No one was sitting there. I dismissed it. What else could I do? My mother told me it must have been a dream, and I was probably sleepwalking. Far assumption since I'd been sleep walking my entire life since I was a child.

So - fast forward a few years. I'm newly married, with a baby in arm, and walking from a building downtown. I walk past the same man who'd been sitting on my couch a few years previous. I lived a clear 50 miles away from the previous addressed I lived in with my mother. At first I didn't react and walked on another five or six feet; but then I stopped, took a deep breath and turned around - half expecting the person to be gone. But he was there - turned around and facing me, as though waiting - about 15 feet away. He had that same smile on his face. Same dark long hair. Same hat, long black over coat, black slacks, shoes, gloves.

It spooked me, so I whirled around and got to my car as fast as I could. I buckled the baby in the car, and drove away from the man in black as fast as i could.

~ Cirque

a reply to: anonentity


The reality is that there are no such beings as "Men In Black". They were the creation of Gray Barker

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Gray Barker
Gray Barker (May 2, 1925–December 6, 1984)[1] was an American writer best known for his books about UFOs and other paranormal phenomena. His 1956 book They Knew Too Much About Flying Saucers introduced the notion of the Men in Black to UFO folklore. Recent evidence indicates that he was skeptical of most UFO claims, and mainly wrote about the paranormal for financial gain. He sometimes participated in hoaxes to deceive serious UFO investigators.

According to Sherwood's Skeptical Inquirer article "Gray Barker: My Friend, the Myth-Maker", there may have been "a grain of truth" to Barker's writings on the Men in Black, in that the United States Air Force and other government agencies did attempt to discourage public interest in UFOs during the 1950s. However, Barker is thought to have greatly embellished the facts of the situation. In the same Skeptical Inquirer article, Sherwood revealed that, in the late 1960s, he and Barker collaborated on a brief fictional notice alluding to the Men in Black, which was published as fact first in Raymond A. Palmer's Flying Saucers magazine and some of Barker's own publications. In the story, Sherwood (writing as "Dr. Richard H. Pratt") claimed he was ordered to silence by the "blackmen" after learning that UFOs were time-travelling vehicles. Barker later wrote to Sherwood, "Evidently the fans swallowed this one with a gulp.

Legacy[edit]
The concept of the Men in Black, which Barker introduced in They Knew Too Much About Flying Saucers, has become a major part of UFO lore. The book inspired a fictional comic book written by Lowell Cunningham, which in turn inspired a popular film and animated television series.

Anyone who claims they interacted with MIBs is downright lying. Additionally, anyone who also claims similar treatment by non-MIBs is also lying.

man this takes me back... the MIB sound track was one of the first cassettes I ever bought. I was so cool rocking my walkman. www.youtube.com...

originally posted by: Uggielicious
a reply to: anonentity


The reality is that there are no such beings as "Men In Black". They were the creation of Gray Barker

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Gray Barker
Gray Barker (May 2, 1925–December 6, 1984)[1] was an American writer best known for his books about UFOs and other paranormal phenomena. His 1956 book They Knew Too Much About Flying Saucers introduced the notion of the Men in Black to UFO folklore. Recent evidence indicates that he was skeptical of most UFO claims, and mainly wrote about the paranormal for financial gain. He sometimes participated in hoaxes to deceive serious UFO investigators.

According to Sherwood's Skeptical Inquirer article "Gray Barker: My Friend, the Myth-Maker", there may have been "a grain of truth" to Barker's writings on the Men in Black, in that the United States Air Force and other government agencies did attempt to discourage public interest in UFOs during the 1950s. However, Barker is thought to have greatly embellished the facts of the situation. In the same Skeptical Inquirer article, Sherwood revealed that, in the late 1960s, he and Barker collaborated on a brief fictional notice alluding to the Men in Black, which was published as fact first in Raymond A. Palmer's Flying Saucers magazine and some of Barker's own publications. In the story, Sherwood (writing as "Dr. Richard H. Pratt") claimed he was ordered to silence by the "blackmen" after learning that UFOs were time-travelling vehicles. Barker later wrote to Sherwood, "Evidently the fans swallowed this one with a gulp.

Legacy[edit]
The concept of the Men in Black, which Barker introduced in They Knew Too Much About Flying Saucers, has become a major part of UFO lore. The book inspired a fictional comic book written by Lowell Cunningham, which in turn inspired a popular film and animated television series.

Anyone who claims they interacted with MIBs is downright lying. Additionally, anyone who also claims similar treatment by non-MIBs is also lying.

I am not lying. What is there to gain? I saw strange lights in the sky. The next night I had an odd encounter with a very strange guy. He was not wearing black and was in a white truck with lights mounted on the top that were unlike any I have ever seen. He was wearing sunglasses and was well versed in music theory. Just the facts.

a reply to: anonentity

I've seen quite a few ufo's. Never officially reported anything.
Always good to have a few experiences to share with friends over a beer.

originally posted by: EA006
a reply to: anonentity

I've seen quite a few ufo's. Never officially reported anything.
Always good to have a few experiences to share with friends over a beer.

You are not alone. I have seen many.

The MIB storyline is one of the stranger ...and evocative "mythos" out there. The "standard" story makes one think of energy beings shoved into a meat suit for bizarre recognizance... or at least "angel" (or alien) like beings in-the-know about the (possible) behind-the-scenes reality.

Despite the pulp paperback, b.s. ambiance around these stories, many of them have the ring of truth... or really, if pure fiction, then the authors who came up with them are incredibly creative ... or, they happened, but maybe some phenomena took the m.i.b. archetype as a disguise? But I've heard of weirder stuff that I think has truth to it.

The lack of solid information leaves a gap where speculation can run wild... but secretive, knowledgeable black (and other colored) dressed individuals certainly predate Bender and ilk. The alchemy literature is rife with it.

And Cirque, next time you see the guy, maybe buck up and investigate? Heh, I do I see why you wouldn't ... but chances are he's benign as he's letting you see him and making the choice to interact or not... (assuming we're not all insane and that this stuff happens ...as always)... and writing that sounds like the "gotta invite them in" horror meme, but ...heck, you don't get to question other -worldly beings beings every-day... as far as I know, anyway... I do have an incredibly weird neighbor... and he has one, too.

originally posted by: skunkape23

originally posted by: Uggielicious
a reply to: anonentity


The reality is that there are no such beings as "Men In Black". They were the creation of Gray Barker


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Anyone who claims they interacted with MIBs is downright lying. Additionally, anyone who also claims similar treatment by non-MIBs is also lying.

I am not lying. What is there to gain? I saw strange lights in the sky. The next night I had an odd encounter with a very strange guy. He was not wearing black and was in a white truck with lights mounted on the top that were unlike any I have ever seen. He was wearing sunglasses and was well versed in music theory. Just the facts.

You don't have a story to add to the database. Your experience, as you narrate, does not include the usual details. You don't give details as to whether the guy approached you or you approached him. You don't say what the interaction was about. Actually, you don't say much yet you sound as if you're trying to connect whatever experience you had with the legend of the alleged MIB.

Hi, anyone familiar with Elohim City? Could anyone get me in contact with other Elohim? I think that they really, really want to speak with me but I can't get to them. Thank you.

OP

MiB are just urban legends. nothing proven yet as for their visitation to UFO witnesses.

That the UFO phenomena exists, it is documented in thousands of investigation.

That MiB exists, no such document indicate it's existence , except in hollywood

That sometimes Poltergeist and Psychic events happened after UFO Close Encounters , it's been documented , also including visits from strange people (who dont always wear black). No evidence if this is physicial visitation or psychic phenomena / psychosis / hallunication

originally posted by: skunkape23

originally posted by: Uggielicious
a reply to: anonentity


The reality is that there are no such beings as "Men In Black". They were the creation of Gray Barker

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Gray Barker
Gray Barker (May 2, 1925–December 6, 1984)[1] was an American writer best known for his books about UFOs and other paranormal phenomena. His 1956 book They Knew Too Much About Flying Saucers introduced the notion of the Men in Black to UFO folklore. Recent evidence indicates that he was skeptical of most UFO claims, and mainly wrote about the paranormal for financial gain. He sometimes participated in hoaxes to deceive serious UFO investigators.

According to Sherwood's Skeptical Inquirer article "Gray Barker: My Friend, the Myth-Maker", there may have been "a grain of truth" to Barker's writings on the Men in Black, in that the United States Air Force and other government agencies did attempt to discourage public interest in UFOs during the 1950s. However, Barker is thought to have greatly embellished the facts of the situation. In the same Skeptical Inquirer article, Sherwood revealed that, in the late 1960s, he and Barker collaborated on a brief fictional notice alluding to the Men in Black, which was published as fact first in Raymond A. Palmer's Flying Saucers magazine and some of Barker's own publications. In the story, Sherwood (writing as "Dr. Richard H. Pratt") claimed he was ordered to silence by the "blackmen" after learning that UFOs were time-travelling vehicles. Barker later wrote to Sherwood, "Evidently the fans swallowed this one with a gulp.

Legacy[edit]
The concept of the Men in Black, which Barker introduced in They Knew Too Much About Flying Saucers, has become a major part of UFO lore. The book inspired a fictional comic book written by Lowell Cunningham, which in turn inspired a popular film and animated television series.

Anyone who claims they interacted with MIBs is downright lying. Additionally, anyone who also claims similar treatment by non-MIBs is also lying.

I am not lying. What is there to gain? I saw strange lights in the sky. The next night I had an odd encounter with a very strange guy. He was not wearing black and was in a white truck with lights mounted on the top that were unlike any I have ever seen. He was wearing sunglasses and was well versed in music theory. Just the facts.

Maybe we should consider his meaning of the word "neighborhood" it could be something much broader than a mere street or block, It could be our entire solar system, galaxy or beyond. That's how the movies would take it, right?