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The problem is that there do appear to be Chemtrails that are separate to any clouds or contrails.
originally posted by: Rob48
a reply to: amazing
No, it's just some people are itching to swallow any snake oil that gets pitched to them.
Contrails are sometimes barely visible at all, other times they disappear quickly, and sometimes they persist for hours. Sometimes they even spread out into cirrus sheets. It's really not difficult to figure out why. Temperature, humidity, wind.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: amazing
Why wouldn't we think that they are releasing chemicals in the air?
There's a difference between not believing they would and not believing they are.
originally posted by: amazing
originally posted by: Rob48
a reply to: amazing
No, it's just some people are itching to swallow any snake oil that gets pitched to them.
Contrails are sometimes barely visible at all, other times they disappear quickly, and sometimes they persist for hours. Sometimes they even spread out into cirrus sheets. It's really not difficult to figure out why. Temperature, humidity, wind.
We know the government lies to us.[...] Why wouldn't we think that they are releasing chemicals in the air?
You also just summarized the key points of contrails, but again didn't really explain it clearly. Not saying that's your job, but this is the problem.
originally posted by: Rob48
a reply to: vethumanbeing
You live in a desert state and you get dust on your shrubs? Wow.
Do you know the typical Al content by mass of soil in the desert states of the USA, by the way?
It's not so much the temperature as the humidity. I know that sounds sort of like a joke but it's true. Temperatures are usually cold enough to produce contrails (persistent or otherwise) at flight altitudes. The main factor that determines if contrails form (and persist) is the level of humidity.
I realize it's the temperature but I need a simple easy to understand explanation. it's not your job to give me one, I realize that, I'm just posting my concerns.
More modern and efficient jet engines are prone to produce contrails under conditions that older engines might not. But judging altitude from the ground for planes that are 6 or 7 miles in the sky is not really possible. And yes, the humidity levels (and temperatures) can vary in quite thin layers. A plane a one altitude can very easily be flying in conditions which are conducive to persistent contrails while one at a slightly different altitude may not.
Why do two planes differ? Why does one give off a contrail and the other does not when from the ground they appear to be at the same altitude? And if they are at different altitudes what is the difference in temperature between a few hundred feet or a couple of thousand?
originally posted by: vethumanbeing
When they do, the sky is not blue anymore; it has a white sheen.
originally posted by: azdaze
A local news story on the topic at hand....
kdminer.com...
What wasn't discussed is whether the elevated levels of heavy metals some people have is not the result of what falls from the skies today, but what fell from the skies about 70 years ago when the Kingman area was home to a gunnery range.
originally posted by: olaru12
What astonishes me is that when ever the subject of chem/contrails comes up; you get the same debunkers insulting the members of ATS that have a different opinion.
Why the passion and vitriol? Who really cares what people believe?
originally posted by: vethumanbeing
originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: Kratos40
. BTW its hotter than hell here.