"costum" magic

quote: Originally posted by evecasino
I am a subscriber and strong believer in candle majic and have used in the past (not anymore) spells created by those who pratice Santeria.

quote: Originally posted by Lady V
I believe it works but it can also bite you in the a$$ big time so be careful, thats all I'll say.
Yes it will, The candles must be dressed appropriately magic must not be used for negative...if you do, it mat be immediately, it mat take a while,,.,but yes, it will turn around and bite you in the azz, because what you put forth, flows back to you, three fold, or in the simpler words, "what goes around, comes around"...it's all energy

***I hope it's alright to take a quote from a different thread. I didn't want to hyjack the topic.
But I did want to mention that, as said above, It's all energy. It's energy and the intent/will/belief of the person addressing the occation.
I don't believe anything is needed other than the person and his or her intuit.
The candles and glorified tools of the trade - I believe they are nothing more than a cerimonial set up to help give those within the circle the confidence they need to create their intent. (I must admit that the symbols do seem to draw alot of extra umph. But again, maybe that is only because I believe them to do so? (Never believed in them before they were used on me, then I was attuned to them and I used them)

I still remember the first candle magic I ever came across it was not pleasant stuff.

Ay the stroke of midnight, you light a black candle, say something which I will leave out, and do something else which I will leave out.

It was not filled with happy joy-joy love I'll tell you that.

-ADHDsux4me

Originally posted by ADHDsux4me
I still remember the first candle magic I ever came across it was not pleasant stuff.

Ay the stroke of midnight, you light a black candle, say something which I will leave out, and do something else which I will leave out.

It was not filled with happy joy-joy love I'll tell you that.

-ADHDsux4me

Yep, those funny black candles...I did the midnight-black candle thing once...was it the power in the candles? Or in the mind?

I say the mind. But the sinisterness of the candles is what triggers the powers in the mind to work. All the "trimmings" of magic, candles, incantations, pentacles, etc--that's not the source of the magic--but they can trigger off the mind to perform the magic.

BTW, I'd avoid black candles altogether.

Originally posted by AngelaLadyS
I don't believe anything is needed other than the person and his or her intuit. The candles and glorified tools of the trade - I believe they are nothing more than a cerimonial set up to help give those within the circle the confidence they need to create their intent.

I only partly agree. Sometimes the 'glorified tools of the trade' do more than just serve as a ceremonial set up. They can be very helpful when there is a lack of the necessary energy (physical or mental) or act complimentary to ones natural energy. In this case there is a definite energy coming from the tool itself regardless of belief. It also depends on the nature of the tool + the sensitivity level of the user.
My 2 cents.

Sorry but whats so bad about candle majik, is it more powerfull than other form of majik or just your personal favorite

I didn't read the whole thread correctly. My reference to 'tools of the trade' was meant to be in general terms.

I didn't realize this thread was specifically about candle magic. My mistake.

I personally don't like candles. I think they are bad luck IMO.

Originally posted by AngelaLadyS
The candles and glorified tools of the trade - I believe they are nothing more than a cerimonial set up to help give those within the circle the confidence they need to create their intent. (I must admit that the symbols do seem to draw alot of extra umph. But again, maybe that is only because I believe them to do so? (Never believed in them before they were used on me, then I was attuned to them and I used them)

I agree somewhat, in most cases the tools really aren't necessary, but it does help with creating the ritual. I think the mind finds it easier to perform when subjected to ritualistic beliefs when it comes to practicing magic vs. when there is no tool to focus on.

Originally posted by sen5e

Originally posted by AngelaLadyS
I don't believe anything is needed other than the person and his or her intuit. The candles and glorified tools of the trade - I believe they are nothing more than a cerimonial set up to help give those within the circle the confidence they need to create their intent.

I only partly agree. Sometimes the 'glorified tools of the trade' do more than just serve as a ceremonial set up. They can be very helpful when there is a lack of the necessary energy (physical or mental) or act complimentary to ones natural energy. In this case there is a definite energy coming from the tool itself regardless of belief. It also depends on the nature of the tool + the sensitivity level of the user.
My 2 cents.

I'd be very interested in hearing about these things. What does and doesn't work? How would one know?
I personlay do feel drawn to certain things, feel things belong with me, sometimes feel the need to move toward a certain area or facing a certain direction - tilt my head a certain way when listening...
But I've never seen a candle or the things I think of as these tools draw my attention or make me feel differnt or intreged.
I'm absolutely amazed that I, of all people, would actualy use symbols (very few and only to aid in helping others) - but the heat that comes after I use them - and I didn't really believe to begin with - it makes me think there is something there.

Originally posted by sen5e
I didn't read the whole thread correctly. My reference to 'tools of the trade' was meant to be in general terms.

I didn't realize this thread was specifically about candle magic. My mistake.

I personally don't like candles. I think they are bad luck IMO.

No, no, no... This thread isn't just about candle magic. I was reffering to all things people use. I couldn't even give you a list - not knowing much about any of them... herbs, candles, black cloths, wands (that one just cracks me up, as does the big black pot), the clothing or jewlery - all of it, any of it. Sorry for the confussion.

don't believe anything is needed other than the person and his or her intuit.
The candles and glorified tools of the trade - I believe they are nothing more than a cerimonial set up to help give those within the circle the confidence they need to create their intent. (I must admit that the symbols do seem to draw alot of extra umph. But again, maybe that is only because I believe them to do so? (Never believed in them before they were used on me, then I was attuned to them and I used them)

The term I've seen most often used is "foci" or "focus items". As you state, even most practicioners hold that there is no inherent magical energies in them in and of themselves...but that the energy is summoned and directed by the practicioner in their performance of the ritual, with the items just aiding in focusing those energies...

Though once into this for a short while....every thing I tried ended up only causing a big black hairy spider to show up soon afterwards, so I kind of quit that idea. Naturally, the spider wouldn't just "appear", but within a day, sure enough, I'd see one on the wall...and these such times were the ONLY times I ever saw them in my life...so a bit too much of a coincidence for me....hehe...

Originally posted by worldwatcher
I agree somewhat, in most cases the tools really aren't necessary, but it does help with creating the ritual. I think the mind finds it easier to perform when subjected to ritualistic beliefs when it comes to practicing magic vs. when there is no tool to focus on.

Yes. It's like a 'switch on' - although not needed unless the user feels the need or is not capable of 'switching on' without the ritual. Kind of like a person haveing problems going to sleep at night. If you begin to do a standard/every night 'ritual' or set of things just before going to bed, your body will realize it's time. Just like pavlov and his dog :-) We can all be clasicaly trained to salivate. LOL!

the power does not come directly from the candles, this is common misinterpretation. the power should come from the sybolism that affects your subconcious and the collective unconcious. the flame-knowledge, eternity, "the light" or "the way". along with the color and the proportions. everything about it should inflict some kind of meaning on your subconcious. the "power" comes from your mind.duh