My Bigfoot encounter..

Wow I wish I was there to see it! I have read Jeff meldrums book where he explains his scientific findings of Bigfoot so far and it's amazing. These ppl that naysay have only read one side of the scientific argument and not the rebuttals. He is a phd in primate foot print anatomy and has thousands of casts from all over the world that show dermal ridges not human and not primate. And I'm sure he knows a hoax when he sees one, since he's been doing this for almost 20 years. There was one print he set apart from the rest because it's location on a hillside indicated that you'd need heavy machinery to recreate it, since the amount of weight needed to depress the soil to same depth was something like 800 lbs! It also showed primate foot anatomy that few ppl in the world knew at the time. So yes I believe they do exists and you are a lucky person to have seen one for such a long period of time! I would love to have my own sighting soon.

Ps..did anyone read the missing 411 books? I think when you read about these ppl that disappear under incredibly strange circumstances and the few that are found, what they recollect is in my opinion caused by the few nasty mean bigfoots. A majority anyways but not all of the missing ppl.

Thank you all for taking the time to read and comment. (Believers and Skeptics alike!!!) We are all here to learn and explore this wonderful ride we call life.

This was personal to me because it was my reality.. all opinions and view points welcomed, all I ask is that you show respect, use tact and not be abrasive.

Again thank you all for your input, it may help myself and others understand what we are seeing out there.

a reply to: TheLieWeLive

I read about the red haired giants and heard the story told from a native elder and it's very interesting. I remember they pointed out the cave where it was said to have happened and sure enough the place was covered in soot like a big fire was made inside and I'll try to find the link for the hand print outline that looks to be burnt in to rock. Not sure if the print was real but the story was sure real to he natives and the evidence of fire backed it up.

originally posted by: DPrice
a reply to: Alter-Ego

A common error when making things up on the internet is putting to much detail into the recollection. You would not be able to remember all of those small details if it had really happened.

I have to disagree with you only because of the over-generalization. To a degree, you'd be reasonable to question any story you read on the 'Net.

The epiphany I had the night of the UFO we saw during the 2000 eclipse actually included a few seconds of thinking, "So this is what it feels like to look up the stairs and see a ghost or turn a corner and look up into the eyes of a Sasquatch". The details of that experience are so burned into my memory that I can't forget what we saw or ever feel the need to embellish the account.

If I were the OP, the eye-to-eye contact would never be far from my thoughts. S&F!

To the OP, did you go through a period of depression or melancholy when you realized that it would do no good to tell anyone because you knew they'd assume you weren't telling the truth, whether they said to your face or not? My wife, son and I did after our UFO sighting...

Skepticism is justified, how for example manages this species to hide from humans FOR AGES, HUNDREDS OF YEARS? No one has ever seen a dead one. No bones, cadavers. No one doubts that bears exists, elephants, even giant octopuses are accepted. But for some reason, there are giant creatures out there roaming the woods "8 or 9 feet tall"....and they must be true masters of shape-shifting or live in still undiscovered areas on this planet so that they managed it to evade humans ever since. And THIS, to be honest, is very hard to believe.

a reply to: NoRulesAllowed

With in the last 10 years, Shelly Williams, PhD, a specialist in primate behavior, confirmed a newer acknowledged ape species, the natives knew it existed already. This animal wasn't hiding, no one of 'importance' formally discovered it yet.
The Bili Ape (Bondo) can stand around 6 ft tall and some weigh over 200 lbs.

That's a big ole boy.

No one has ever seen a dead one. No bones, cadavers.

I'm curious, just how many bear carcasses have you ran across in the woods?

originally posted by: JiggyPotamus
Their bushcraft skills are all that matter, their ability to find food and stay hidden. It does not take intelligence to instinctually seek cover when the presence of a human is noted. So although they could be consciously avoiding us, I think it is more instinctual. Why I have no idea. There must obviously be some biological reason for such avoidance, and I hypothesize that they have what I term and avoidance instinct. It is mostly instinctual, but carried out in tandem with intelligence. They have some ability to rationalize and make logical decisions. This much is obvious to me after studying encounter reports for years.

Go look at the square miles of uninhabited forestland in the US, and then realize there are 640 acres per square mile. The number of acres of potential habitat is astounding. The fact that people are seeing sasquatch means that the sasquatch are pushing closer and closer to human settlements. There could be multiple explanations for this but I maintain that their increasing numbers are driving them further and further from already occupied territory. That is that other sasquatch are occupying the choicest locations while others are pushed further out from the center of the forest, and thus closer and closer to large cities and other centers.

Even small mice are sneaky little critters hiding behind furniture, staying in the shadows, and only peeking round corners while cleaning their little whiskers. There are plenty of people who have tried trapping rats, and the little critters are smart enough to avoid trap-door cages, sticky mats and spring traps.

Then at the large end of the mammal scale, you have all those giant hogs that can dig their own burrows. If one of those can hide, then it shouldn't be difficult for a sasquatch. But would they live underground, in mountain caves or in tree tops. Since there are people suffering from Ambras syndrome:

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It shouldn't be too difficult genetically for some humanoid to have albino characteristics and have full body fur. The gene for hair color
is known as SLC45A2

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There was Snowflake the gorilla who was the only known albino gorilla in the world.

a reply to: stormcell

Then at the large end of the mammal scale, you have all those giant hogs that can dig their own burrows. If one of those can hide, then it shouldn't be difficult for a sasquatch. But would they live underground, in mountain caves or in tree tops.

I've wondered about them sleeping or even hiding in trees. So many people don't look up, even without a tree cover. If they do live underground that could explain the awful stench often associated with a sighting. It could be sulfur seeped into their hair giving them their smell.

Good. They are obviously smart enough to remain hidden from humans.They know we would screw them over just like most things.

a reply to: Alter-Ego

Welcome to the world of the strange, and wonderful.

I've seen Sasquatch as well.

...and the story is around here somewhere, should you be interested.

a reply to: MrInquisitive

Didn't look for foot prints or investigate the path this supposed creature made through the forest? That or packing up and leaving immediately. Not buying it.

Why would the witness look for prints when they were looking right into the creatures face 10-15 feet away? What sort of validation do you think you would need? The OP reports they did look at the woods where the creature left, and noticed broken trees and branches...

And if there were 8-10' hominids of some sort living in North America, they would be documented by now. At the very least there'd be their scat piles and, on occasion, a skeleton.

They ARE documented. Photographed, videotaped, eyewitness reports, footprint casts, etc. As for scat piles and skeletons, what makes you think you'd find them? You are assuming 3 things right off the bat without any reason to do so:

-They aren't intelligent at all

-They live close enough to human settlements that we would be able to observe such evidence on a regular basis

-Their scat piles and/or skeletons would be left out in the open, either unburied or somehow untouched by scavengers and other organisms

Here are a couple hypothetical reasons why your criticisms aren't logical:

1) On the issue of documentation, We can trace sasquatch sightings back hundreds of years, back before Europeans even arrived in North America (via native populations), and even further back in other parts of the world. Just because modern scientists haven't confirmed their existence yet, does not magically make it impossible for them to exist. Take the colossal squid or the silverback gorilla for example, or any other number of species which were formerly thought to be the stuff of legends and scoffed at until they were confirmed to exist.

2) As for Scat and Skeletons, How do you know that these creatures aren't intelligent enough to bury their dead or dispose of them in some manner that prevents us from discovering their remains? What if they don't bury their dead, but their population centers are so remote that their remains/scat are never found? Perhaps they migrate to die? There are a number of reasons why this is an inadequate criticism. You haven't thought this out very well, and you're letting your skepticism get the better of you.

Also keep in mind that all primates live in groups/bands/troops/tribes.

There are many examples of people living in the bush by themselves.

All of these supposed Big Foot encounters/sightings always involve just one.

That is not true. There have been reports of entire families, including children sized bigfoot with a mother and father.

Then there's the fact that a band of big hominids in the wilderness would be hard to hide in this day and age, particularly with IR satellite imagery.

No, it really wouldn't be that hard to hide, even in this day and age. There are vast swaths of wilderness just in the U.S and Canada alone. We can't even find crashed cessnas if they go down over remote wilderness most of the time, yet you think we could just spot a sasquatch just because? There are regions in North America you can't even access year round by plane because they are so remote.

IR Satellites? Do you think Satellites are combing the vast expanse of forest in North America? Looking for what exactly? To find a needle in a haystack you sort of have to start looking for it in the first place, to say nothing of the fact that an IR camera isn't going to pick up a heat signature in dense enough forest to begin with.

What is the next criticism? That they don't have enough food? There is enough out there to support massive wildlife populations and then some. Skeptic harder.

@ OP: Really enjoyed the drawing and the testimony. Thanks for sharing.

originally posted by: NoRulesAllowed
Skepticism is justified, how for example manages this species to hide from humans FOR AGES, HUNDREDS OF YEARS? No one has ever seen a dead one. No bones, cadavers. No one doubts that bears exists, elephants, even giant octopuses are accepted. But for some reason, there are giant creatures out there roaming the woods "8 or 9 feet tall"....and they must be true masters of shape-shifting or live in still undiscovered areas on this planet so that they managed it to evade humans ever since. And THIS, to be honest, is very hard to believe.

The "no bones and dead bodies" excuse is a huge fail! Here's why: Go into any forest where deer, elk, rabbits, mice, chipmunks, etc. are all said to thrive and try to find some bones! With your thinking, there should be dead bodies and bones everywhere from all the eons of time!, but nope, go into any forest today, and you will be looking a long time and maybe, just maybe find something. Why? Bones do not survive long in the open environment. In the desert where it is hot and dry is different. There you will find bones, but not all over the place like you think they should.

Awesome story and I know you are telling the truth. There's some really funny rebuttals. Such as, it sounds like you remember this event TOO well and that's suspect.... lol And, people never find bigfoot scat or bodies.

Anyway, you might want to check out David Paulide's Missing 411 books. 411 missing person's cases all related to each other and all not explainable but any normal circumstances such as runaways, suicide, getting lost, kidnapping, animal attacks. All of those have been ruled out. And what you're left with is....well. Bigfoot. Even though he never says Bigfoot throughout the entire book. The conclusion is obvious from all of the evidence. He published 3 books and divided them based on western/eastern united states encounters. the level of proof is astonishing and the reoccurring patterns are mind-blowing. once you read these books the premise of bigfoot goes from myth to reality.

Your drawing also matches pretty well to an existing police sketch artists rendering of a bigfoot below. Even the detail about it hiding behind a boulder matches many other encounters that took place in or near boulder fields.



David Paulides Missing 411
His website has extensive research into Bigfoot. He even spent a lot of time with indigenous people learning from them about the history of bigfoot and their history of encounters with bigfoot. Even a bigfoot DNA research.



Below is a picture of david's mapping of the 30? clusters of missing persons all fitting exact or similar circumstances that have been unsolved. and again all normal causes of disappearance have been methodically ruled out.

originally posted by: TheLieWeLive
a reply to: stormcell

Then at the large end of the mammal scale, you have all those giant hogs that can dig their own burrows. If one of those can hide, then it shouldn't be difficult for a sasquatch. But would they live underground, in mountain caves or in tree tops.

I've wondered about them sleeping or even hiding in trees. So many people don't look up, even without a tree cover. If they do live underground that could explain the awful stench often associated with a sighting. It could be sulfur seeped into their hair giving them their smell.

Sulfur is a fundamental component of hair. It's bound up in cysteine. Perhaps they have adapted to living in the wild through thicker courser hair that traps air and acts as an insulator. Living underground would seem the safer option if they had children, and it would also give them access to tree roots rich in sulfur and water.

The nearest species that lives underground are polar bears which dig snow caves for their cubs.

I absolutely believe you 100%.


Have any of you ever thought that maybe they have: A) Inbuilt ability to bodily produce EVLF sounds, and thus 'creep humans out' so they 'move away'. I've been across Canada and can say hand on heart winter or summer, some times that 'creeped out beyond rational explanation' has happened in areas I would never of thought possible.

B) Are protected by the government or agencies of said apparatus?

C) They know 'humans' from days of old and know full damn well what we were like back then, and have stories and lore passing down generation to generation.

My own observations on all of the materials available to me is that their habitat and population remain stable, and for reasons unknown 'drop their guard' if you will as they approach bodies of water such as springs, rivers and lakes. I also have a theory that to mate or find 'new blood' for the family they travel vast distances.

# to note: that map of vanished people is disturbing to say the least.

a reply to: Alter-Ego

I believe you as well... and even if you were lying your pants off, there is enough evidence, aside from eyewitness encounters, to make a very good case for their existence.

I think it's cool as heck (and shocking) that a giant humanoid is actually dwelling in North American woods (and other spots on the globe). I'd love to see a Jane Goodall type study done of them, eventually... but maybe it's better to leave them alone and have most think they are a myth.

We tend to kill what we find.

originally posted by: Baddogma
but maybe it's better to leave them alone and have most think they are a myth.

I often ponder at times on this subject as I have said, and I am almost 100% convinced that there is a deliberate campaign by 'interested parties' to have these beings categorised as 'fringe', 'lunatic', 'tricks of the mind'.

Why? I am totally convinced that at a very high level, our governments are aware of the existence of these tribes, and they have exerted a long standing effort to layer a 'smoke screen across the road' so to speak to make it terribly hard to navigate to a true and proper conclusion.

a reply to: Astr0

I'm learning that truth is indeed stranger than fiction. Things you don't believe exist sometimes do. And that some of the lunatics and conspiracies are true. Not all but some are. And if even one is then the world is a very different place than we believe it to be and much more mysterious and deep.

Never seen a sasquatch, but I believe in them. A buddy bought a farm in the middle of Kansas. No real forest or river ways to speak of. But the guy he hired to be the farm caretaker (since my buddy lives in LA) has always worked my buddies plot and the one over since before he bought it a few years ago. Said that sometimes aver few years he'll see tracks that would go right through my friends farm. The farm has a finger of a thicket that passes straight through the property passing by three modest ponds loaded to the gills with large mouth bass. The deer used the place like a haven for years before the property was bought by my buddy, and nobody hunted on the land, so for a while it was like a local sanctuary. (the farm had been unused for a few decades before he bought it hence the abundance of wildlife)

Anyways, the guy says that he use to see sasquatch tracks every now and then and that they were in different sizes so it was probably a family. He also said that they would only appear for a few weeks in the fall and speculated that they were migrating through yearly or every other year. He never actually saw one but he would just visit the farm a few times a week during the day to check up on things and make sure other farmers weren't using the overgrown pastures or that others cattle weren't jumping the fence and wandering onto the property.

So I believe this guy. And I believe that there is a good possibility for Sasquatch to exist.

originally posted by: Missmissie173
a reply to: Alter-Ego

Hi Alter:

I believe you. I had my own experience at 14, so not much older than you were.

My question is: why do others think that those (like us) that have seen whatever "Bigfoot" is, would want to lie? Just so we could be called silly, crazy, on-drugs etc...you certainly don't have much to gain by lying about an encounter with whatever these creatures are or are not.

There is always fear of the unknown, and sometimes that fear is groundless.

Chat your heart out about it. ATS seems like a fairly safe forum to do just that.

Bigfoot chatter rocks!
MissMissie

Don't take this the wrong way. But I believe that while you may have nothing to GAIN by this, you may not want to really gain anything. People who do this could just be looking for some attention, which sometimes when an extremely out of the ordinary story comes along, people get.

I understand that he was young, and that he didn't think to document in any way. But it's exceedingly hard to believe a story with nothing more than a drawing to back it up.

No offense, I do believe there is stuff out there that we have not "discovered" yet. But stories like this are a hard sell.

originally posted by: skunkape23
I think I may have caught a partial glimpse of one. Just a section of upright torso running through dense thicket, and then jumping into the bayou. I would estimate it would have been 4 or 5 feet tall. Covered with coarse black hair. I have tried to rationalize it as being a wild hog that was stood up on its hinds by the thicket, but that is a stretch. This was in coastal Texas.

So it being a hog is more of a stretch then it being "Bigfoot"....

Come on, let's be reasonable.