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originally posted by: arpgme
originally posted by: FyreByrd
You might want to look into Buddha's teachings 600 years prior....
Buddha did not teach that there is a God and God is Light and Love, and Love is Forgiveness so we should live in that way to glorify God.
originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: AkragonI agree with that and it would explain alot. At a certain point GOD will stop the cycle and the wicked will have no more chances to learn.
originally posted by: Akragon
originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: AkragonI agree with that and it would explain alot. At a certain point GOD will stop the cycle and the wicked will have no more chances to learn.
Now tell me... Is that forgiveness?
There is no point where God says Enough is enough... and starts tossing people into some eternal lake of fire...
WE come back here til we get it right... Its the only logical way, aside from fear based garbage the church teaches
originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Akragon You make good points but at some level the neds of the many will outweigh the needs of the few and some will be left behind. From the way i read it is a genitic difference in some of us. Something to do with being fallen and having children.
originally posted by: FyreByrd
You are correct he didn't teach about any God. But as far as teaching go (and to make a case for athetist morals) he did teach forgiveness, patience and tolerance. He did preach peace and understanding. He did teach changing yourself rather then others (they are responsible).
And, most important, he did teach Karma and responsibiltiy for ones own actions. No "get out of jail free' card in Buddhism.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: arpgme
Turning the other cheek is a slave morality. Slaves are unable to fight back against their masters, so they must hide their shame and call it "forgiveness", at the same time condemning their adversary to eternal torment.