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originally posted by: 2012newstart
a reply to: soulshn
good the pope says it. Someone must say it. So what is the solution?
Francis keeps saying things since the start of his papacy. I'd like to see more concrete actions built upon these words. The words are important though.
originally posted by: bobs_uruncle
So did Pope Francis look in a crystal ball, get a message from God or did he happen to pick up a newspaper. Near collapse, this is old news LOL, the writing has been on the wall for a long time for those with eyes to see and mind to
originally posted by: TKDRL
I am not really impressed to be honest. These are the type of thoughts I had when I was a little kid. I was in 3rd grade, remember this song. I remember sitting on some steps hearing the 5th grade sing it. It was during the war with iraq part 1, and having a pen pal in the marines fighting it.
I remember back then wondering why the hell the world is not like this. Wondering why god was such a coward, and not stepping in. That was also back when I was an indoctrinated born again christian. Back when I had some hope.
originally posted by: WhatWeNeedToday
originally posted by: bobs_uruncle
So did Pope Francis look in a crystal ball, get a message from God or did he happen to pick up a newspaper. Near collapse, this is old news LOL, the writing has been on the wall for a long time for those with eyes to see and mind to
If it is "old news," then why haven't you demanded that your government do something to rectify the problem? Heck, why haven't you formed a new government? A new country?
Exactly. Get off your high horse. It is not old news because it still applies to today. It is current news. Get in-touch with reality. Perhaps, you are one of the few with a time-share in an underground bunker or society, so you can sit there on your high horse scoffing at the People as they struggle with yet another economic collapse.
Grow up, dude, and start doing good for once instead of spewing out foolishness.
originally posted by: pikestaff
I would love to know just how much money the Vatican makes each year from its investments, I was quite shocked to learn that the Vatican owned brothels, who would have though that? Payment for the use of the brothel, then paymant again for a dispensation!
It really doesn't matter if you look at politics, religion or business, the people who make the most profits, create their own controlled opposition.
originally posted by: JesusChristwins
a reply to: BuzzyWigs
Read the Apocalypse my friend. Whore Rome and its kings, the popes, are being described from 17:1 till 18:24 of the Apocalypse. It is more than clear that it speaks about the popes and says
"They pretend 7 kings, 5 have fallen, 1 still exists, and the other has not come yet and when he comes, few time he will stay. As for the beast, which existed and now it does not, that is the eighth and yet is one of the seven and goes towards the loss"
Now, Mussolini created the new papal kingdom to get the support of the pope. Since then 7 popes have passed, the 7 kings the Apocalypse say. Also, pope Francis took his position while the previous pope is still in life. That was against the rules so far, that happened for the first time. Does the Apocalypse present correctly the situation we currently face? Well, it sure does!
For me it is more than crystal clear that pope Francis is the last pope, that he is the one who will bring and support the antichrist (he is not the antichrist, you can say his most faithful servant).
Yes, the antichrist will look like Jesus, will do fake miracles with the assistance of satan to make people believe that he is Jesus, will try to show the world that he is here to solve humanity's problems.
And that is the part when many people will fall into that delusion. The part when the antichrist will show his real face, the part when he will begin to destroy humanity starting with the people who believed in him first and then hunting down all the others who opposed him and hide from him. Hopefully, a greater war than WW3 will collapse and the antichrist will lose, satan will be locked into the abyss for 1000 years and humanity will be saved for good!
But don't just take my words. Everything i just said comes from the Holy Texts of the New Testament and Saints. Nothing is mine, i added nothing more than they said. So far, the Holy Texts have come true about our ages. Will they suddenly start to become wrong and faulty? Of course they won't.
But as i say in my sig, time will show if i will be once again correct for listening to what the Holy Texts have been telling us or if i will be wrong.
originally posted by: hmmmbeer
Now I know there is no god, and religion is a fraud and this guy heads a major branch, but what he says, and how he says it is very good.
originally posted by: 2012newstart
From this, I know where you stood at, when you confronted me in my thread about John 23...Good to know it. It is nothing like the official Orthodox churches' positions, Russian and Greek. Not even close to them. I bet pope Francis will find the correct language with them pretty soon. And will avoid the terrifying imaginations you put here as solely your own views on the world.
From the whole list of accusations of the pope, I will pick only one.
"pope Francis took his position while the previous pope is still in life. That was against the rules so far, that happened for the first time. "
That doesn't happen for the first time in history of Roman catholic church. Even recently in the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate in Jerusalem, when one patriarch was exchanged by another. Benedict absolutely voluntarily resigned, following the example of St Celestine V. Francis was elect by majority above 2/3 as many cardinals explained later in the media.
Regardless of your spiritual beliefs, I would not take economic advice from a middle-aged priest.