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Do you use any herbs or ecological food to heal your inner diseases?

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posted on Jun, 6 2014 @ 04:37 PM
Now, when I am at first year of Nursing studies I can hear lots of news about better and greater medicines, but I think to myself..."If I would be a doctor I would talk to patients to try using some herbs particularly on their own disease except chemical diseases".

Have U ever wonder if mixing chemical medicines with herbs would not cause better results in treatment? Or maybe I'm wrong and it's dangerous?

posted on Jun, 6 2014 @ 04:42 PM
a reply to: AnnieWolf19

The herbs themselves contain chemicals. So it varies on the medicines

posted on Jun, 6 2014 @ 04:47 PM
There can be some dangers to the uninformed. For instance, kava, which acts as a relaxant is also an MAOI inhibitor. Taking kava with a pharmaceutical MAOI or SSRI can cause seratonin toxicity and can be fatal. Herbs can be used in conjunction with pharms... but do the research first

posted on Jun, 6 2014 @ 04:57 PM
Using Limonene (orange oil extract) to dissolve cholesterol gallstones, with taurinne.

posted on Jun, 6 2014 @ 05:02 PM
All synthetic medicines are based on herbs, or so they used to be, however the production of medicines unfortunately no longer prioritises the patients, but the profits, so the cheaper the ingredients, the better. Just look at the list of ingredients on a bottle of "herbal" shampoo, and you'll virtually find no herbal substance contained. I grew up with a grandfather who took nothing but herbs for medication, and I do preffer them myself, especially because I live in an area which is abundant with them, so I can source them fresh and still for free, untill the Euro-watch-dog comes around placing labels on every bush, claiming they are now becoming extinct and we are to be fined if we so much as smell them. The good thing about using herbs is you do not have to use them combined with other chemical compounds, thank goodness for that. But I am aware that like any synthetic drug, they are a poison, and potentially dangerous if used excessively. Stick with good nutrition and you'll never need them hopefully.reply to: AnnieWolf19

posted on Jun, 6 2014 @ 05:20 PM
a reply to: AnnieWolf19

All food is ecological, or contains matter which was once a part of an ecology. From butter to bread, from cod to corn, all the things that we eat, bar sea salt perhaps, are a direct derivative of, or contain, material which used to be a part of an ecology somewhere.

So I guess my question is, just what exactly do you mean by ecological foods? And what is this about chemical medicines? Herbal remedies are ALSO chemicals! Everything you eat, drink, breathe, and touch is either a chemical, or a complicated combination of chemicals. You are MADE of chemicals! I am made of chemicals!

Terminological ambiguity of this nature causes problems for me, so if you would not mind framing your query in a more appropriate fashion, I would be better placed to answer your question.

posted on Jun, 6 2014 @ 05:26 PM
a reply to: AnnieWolf19

Like Luuke123 pointed out, herbs contain chemicals themselves. In fact, many medicines that we have are based on things found in nature.

That said, I actually had a very bad thing happen when I started taking some herbal based vitamins in combination with regular medicines. I was on depakote and one of the ingredients of those vitamins actually put my depakote blood level into overdose levels. That is extraordinarily dangerous and I was lucky (obviously) as an overdose of depakote can kill. It'd been the second time that I was scolded for taking an herbal based vitamin by my doctors. The first time was taking gingko biloba and having in thin my blood down so significantly that I had 14 serious nosebleeds in one day.

The moral of my story is this--don't take any herbal supplements or vitamins without obtaining approval from your doctor first. Just don't do it. Herbal supplements are medicines in their own right and can have contraindications and bad mixes occur just like any other medicine.

posted on Jun, 6 2014 @ 05:30 PM
The half-baked hippy idea that if a substance is a natural means it is harmless, is nonsense : some of the most deadly substances known to science are "natural" , and some of them come from plants, e.g. Ricin , Nicotine , Cyanide, Opium (Heroin).
The plants evolved these poisons to incapacitate / kill the animals eating them ...
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posted on Jun, 6 2014 @ 05:34 PM
You are right, I messed up a little bit of this subjects.

You all are right and thank you for sharing your knowledge about it.

Everything has 2 sides.

posted on Jun, 6 2014 @ 05:48 PM
I don't take anything other than the god given made made crap they put in the food I buy.

posted on Jun, 6 2014 @ 06:45 PM
I myself just eat what my body wants; and I dis-like fish yet eat it if my body wants it. Spices and not the store crap with all the Extras!

Has one read all the Extra Stuff they put into everything? You don't have to wonder if your mixing this or that if you go Old School. Mix something from the store packets and you just might Blend something evil and end up sick, tired and clash if one takes any pills!

On a different note: To cure Disease within, you first need to find the Dis-ease thats causing the problem! Since it could be the people around you, work place, or home. Eazy to find out about people, burn some Sage! Some will complain, some will notice while the others will run.

If one is sick, most of the time something in your life is causing it. Born with it, work with it. The Body can overcome just about anything; well lately with all the extra crap included. One just needs to rid themselves and go grow their own Veg's. I love a good steak, lately though it tastes like POO!

You do have a clue, if it goes in your mouth and something tells you to spit it out or not to take another bite, Listen! If one goes to the bathroom within an hour after eating, bad cooking or somethings wrong with what you just cooked or take-out!


posted on Jun, 6 2014 @ 06:50 PM
Diet can control a lot of the problems we have, spices and some herbs can be incorporated into the diet. Most times medicines are not needed at all. But for some reason someone is trying to tell us certain foods should be avoided, then we need pills if we believe them. I don't know who is behind those rumors. Even processed food, a few times a week, can be good for you. Just not everyday.

When you examine the properties of foods, you can not just look at one chemical it contains and say it is bad. I don't know who started that crap, probably big business trying to get us to eat the foods they make instead of someone elses food. There are only a half dozen foods I think are bad for many of us because the bad is much worse than the good in it. Funny thing is....they are trying to push these foods on everyone, telling us they are good for us. In moderation they will not hurt, but once a week is plenty. I think society is trying to kill us.

posted on Jun, 6 2014 @ 07:24 PM
Chemistry is life as to biology is to elements. The thing about doctors is they've been unionised, with that in mind, the doctor will obviously favor the option that stuffs his pockets with debt instruments for his own benefit. The schools will try to get a 'standard' of how to help with ailments, but everyone is different. The environment they live in can be the cause of their problems, or whatever. Point is, biopharmaceutical companies, will do what is best for business. Distract, diverge, and divide the populations.
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Eugenics never impeded.
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^video of the simpson's pre-9/11 acknowledgement
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posted on Jun, 7 2014 @ 01:41 PM
a reply to: AnnieWolf19

The big pharma and giant corporations don't want you to get well simply by adjusting your life style and eating fresh food and a cup of cheap easily accesable herbal tea every once in a while...They want us sick,addicted and consuming their goodies because that's the only way they can make billions of dollars out of the peoples misery....Medical industry is the most profitable in the world and they have a clear mission to make more money.

posted on Jun, 7 2014 @ 07:07 PM
I'm going to experiment with one herb called Yarrow (Achillea millefolium) for "women problems" instead of taking hormones to regulate menstruation. Problems with that started when I was diagnosed with Hypothyroidism. Of course I take hormones for that from the end of March 2014, but TAKING NEXT HORMONS FOR menstruation problems seem to me pointless.

Thank U all for your opinions on this whole subject

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posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 03:24 PM
I have been experimenting with my food and supplements for many years now. And reading immense amounts of research papers, and abstracts, and blogs, and articles from specialists, and books, and more. I participate online in several areas where people also do N=1 nutrition/supp experiments, for many years now. So it's kind of a focus. I have a genetically inherited currently incurable condition (obnoxious though not fatal) which has driven me to search for anything and everything that could even point to solutions, is all.

I've ranged from lacto-vegetarian to ketogenic LC to paleo to primal to mostly raw food and fasting to eating the way the people around me do (hideously) as I've tried a lot of different things to see how I feel.

"Eat real food" are the most important three words to human health, in my opinion.

-- Troll the borders of the grocery store. Learn to cook. I didn't learn to cook anything but a few dishes until I was 40! Now I truly can't believe the horrific way I used to eat simply because I didn't make food at home and when I did I thought pasta was food. Even minimal effort with a toaster oven and a crockpot -- minimal space, even apartments can use them, they don't heat up the house much in summer -- can make a huge difference, and can prep food in advance so there is always something decently healthy and tasty to have, without being tempted to seek out junk or a drive-thru window.

"It varies, and everyone is different" is probably next most important thing.

My best friend can live on pizza and he will always be a beanpole. I can live on calories that would put a teenage anorexic to shame and still not lose fat. There are all kinds of hormonal substances (starting with but not limited to insulin of course) that have a dramatic effect on the body, not just on things like bodyweight but on how your liver and your brain function, whether you're depressed or can't pay attention and many other things. I wish I had known when younger of these things. I wish I had taken more seriously that the body is built out of what we put into it. I grew up on home-cooked food that was almost nothing but carbs and trans-fats (it was the 70s...) and that seems ok for many people until later. Until they are 20 or 30 or 40 and suddenly their body just doesn't seem to be working right.

Most people don't know that the same people eating precisely the same food don't get the same thing out of it; doing precisely the same exercise don't get the same thing out of it; this is measurable when someone bothers. Biochemical individuality is absolute, and the 'average' measure that makes doing research so convenient is probably an unfortunate contribution to science in some ways, though it helps in others.

"Nutrition is the base of all health" is the last thing I've realized.

Nobody is ill because of being deficient in a pharmaceutical drug. Yes, if you screw up your body long enough and severely enough it may come to needing one of those but I think the vast majority of the time what people desperately need is a very solid, intense, consistent, year-long program in making sure they are getting every amino acid (particularly the collagen spectrum most of us got little of growing up), every mineral (including trace minerals), every enzyme (including substantial amounts of vitamins, natural not synthetic forms), and lipids (healthy fats, especially things our diets tend to miss like phospholipids). If after some serious effort to put back the lifetime-accumulated-deficiencies the body's suffering -- probably every body that didn't grow up Amish -- if one is still having problems so huge they are intractable, that's when I'd consider a doctor. Not before. Allopathic medicine is excellent for digging out bullets and tumors but they are not only poorly (barely) educated about nutrition, they are literally intentionally MISeducated about the subject and most of the time vastly more harm than help. Obviously you should trust your own judgement and seek medical assistance if you feel you need it -- not the word of a stranger on the internet. I'm talking about me.

These are the primary points that I've learned through this focus.

Was there a specific question you had? The way you phrased it, I wasn't really sure what you were looking for.

posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 03:39 PM
I watched this video today, very interesting approach. According to his theory healing is all in the astrological sign and the deficiency of the corresponding salt/minerals. The second part describes these in detail. reply to: RedCairo

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posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 05:53 PM
a reply to: RedCairo

Thank You for your explanation and sharing your long-time experiences. I think it's gonna be useful for somebody, who is just youngster. I think you wrote anything I wanted to hear, but maybe you will write something about your experiences with herbs...if you had such.

I wrote about my current problem a little bit above:

I'm going to experiment with one herb called Yarrow (Achillea millefolium) for "women problems" instead of taking hormones to regulate menstruation. Problems with that started when I was diagnosed with Hypothyroidism. Of course I take hormones for that from the end of March 2014, but TAKING NEXT HORMONS FOR menstruation problems seem to me pointless.

Thank U all for your opinions on this whole subject - See more at:

posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 07:14 PM
The astrological stuff referred to is likely Carey's stuff, the Scheussler all-cell salts. That's actually an interesting topic. I have a great book on it that shows faces and symptoms in the faces and which of these likely would resolve it. The problem with those is that they are homeopathic (while this is a stretch for me, I'm willing to give anything benefit of the doubt if it isn't super expensive and doesn't hurt me and might help), and you have to take them daily for eons, allegedly, to get the benefits. I have a ton of them in a drawer... I haven't taken them much to report on results either way. As for the astrology element, I cannot speak to that part. I tend to be an evidence-based sort, which is to say, I would not trust anything to help for any reason except that me or someone else actually tried it and reported on something helping... whether this coincided with the right position of the stars would probably not influence me I admit!

But that is not about herbs.

On female stuff: first, I don't want to say anything that could be misconstrued as medical advice. I am merely musing about a topic of philosophical and practical interest; you should make your decisions with someone you know and trust.

Hormones are created by your body. Granted, as we get older the body creates a lot less of them, sadly, which is its own issue. But that aside, everything in your body is created by your body, and your body itself is created by -- as are all these funky glandular substances, from blood to lymph to adrenalin to T3 -- what you eat.

When you have a hormonal issue affecting your menses it generally means that your body is not able to "self-regulate" the way it needs to. This nearly always speaks to a nutritional deficiency, bearing in mind I'm talking about the kind of thing that takes some years to develop and probably quite some time to remedy.

But many things CAN be remedied by eating well. Although this is not my personal eating plan I think I can recommend this book for those interested: The Perfect Health Diet (Jaminet) I mention this not through my own interest but because I've had so many people tell me it worked well for them and most importantly, was sustainable (no diet, no matter how good, is worthwhile if you can't stay on it).

It can also indicate certain levels of toxins such as halides (iodine is a likely deficiency for most people in our culture, and is replaced in the thyroid by the stuff we put in bread and water which doesn't help).

Excessive bleeding, if that's an issue, can often be a result of fibroids and excess estrogen. I have no personal experience with this but there are a whole lot of amazon reviews praising supplements like serrapeptase for helping with fibrin-related disorders, from fibroids to peyronie's to surgical scars to all kinds of other painful and frustrating symptoms. Earthclinic dot com -- which is really a great "home diy health remedy" sort of site -- has suggestions for menses issues. Some common things, such as blackstrap molasses (to ingest), would indicate a mineral deficiency if that helped someone. I have tried various advice from folks on that site for minor things and had good results.

I applaud your desire to try and heal yourself with nature's options rather than just having 'symptoms treated' by the medical world. To me, anything not curative is pointless at best (aside from pain relief some need, or preventing further great endangerment) and often harmful at worst.

But do be aware that many herbs are very powerful (e.g. don't ever take Valerian root before driving -- not for nothing is the stuff called nature's valium) and while even the most dangerous can be very helpful used properly... it is important to use them properly.

Also, be aware there is no real regulation on that industry. I'm ok with that for now because if it were regulated it would only be to make it unworkable for $ reasons -- the entrenched "illness industry" and all -- but it means that you're best off choosing herbal supplements you either grow yourself, or from a company with a reputation for quality. Many have blended or incorrect ingredients not because the companies don't check or care but because until just recently there was really no way to affordably check this stuff. (Recently a Canadian research team started a database to make this more possible and affordable, a worthy goal. But not likely to help us until the future.)

If you're looking for Yarrow, I can guess what's going on. Be aware that many herbs that deal with bleeding are very strong and shouldn't be used more than a few weeks running, then lay off them for awhile, or use something else, then rotate back on. My best advice concerning ANY Supplement is to go to the largest websites --, and so on -- and read all the reviews on all the brands of the product. Bear in mind that some brands (especially cheaper ones) may offer people gift certificates/discounts to write reviews (of things they haven't used) and some are just fake, but if you read a lot of reviews you get the feel for what is real and what is not. And most of the confirmed buyers especially of the more expensive brands are real.

I recommend you go read the reviews that relate to herbals for your symptoms. Things that might be helpful to you:


Red Raspberry Leaves:

Evening Primrose:

Black Currant:

Good luck.
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posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 08:33 PM
a reply to: AnnieWolf19

The Native Americans had a practice of putting dandelion leaves in a scarf and putting it near the thyroid to heal it. Now dandelions have a similar detox and regeneration hormone as in milk thistle. Maybe it also can be absorbed in through the skin to repair the thyroid. I only read the one article on this subject, but what harm would it be for a person to put a dandelion poltice there for a few days if they had problems. I guess you might get a green spot on your neck though.
There are many different types of problems that can occur with the thyroid though, which one would this treatment work on?

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