Can you give me one verafiable evedanced proof of government disinformation?

a reply to: beezzer
There is ample evidence. The fact that you don't recognize it is disturbing.

There's always this gem:

The men were given free medical care, meals, and free burial insurance, for participating in the study. They were never told they had syphilis, nor were they ever treated for it. According to the Centers for Disease Control, the men were told they were being treated for "bad blood", a local term for various illnesses that include syphilis, anemia, and fatigue.

link

If you make it to adulthood still not believing the government lies you're either not paying attention or tipping the IQ scales at a whopping 45.

a reply to: HardCorps

After the Boston bombings the FBI asked for the publics assistance in identifying the suspects, the same two brothers they had been watching for several years. They were obviously lying to the American people, the FBI knew who they were when they released the pictures of the brothers.

Deceased Boston Marathon bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev came to the attention of the FBI on at least two occasions prior to a Russian government warning in March 2011 that said he appeared to be radicalizing, FBI Director Robert Mueller said in Congressional testimony this week.

"His name had come up in two other cases," Mueller said in response to questions from Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa). "Those two other cases, the individuals had their cases closed. So, he was one or two person [sic] away."

FBI knew earlier of Boston bombing suspect

The USS Liberty. The government minimized the whole affair and distorted the actual number of dead and wounded.

a reply to: HardCorps

Do you have a dollar in your pocket?

If you do, pull it out, hold it in your hand, and remember that every single one of the dollars that you have ever held in your hand were a lie.

Their value is entirely notional, and for every one of them that exists, there is two dollars of debt, and that is BEFORE you consider deficits in a more contemporary context. In fact, ever since the ending of the gold standard, the money you have in your pocket stopped being worth its dollar value at all. The fact that many people are not aware of this, is evidence of the sheer amount of disinformation which has been used, to obfuscate that reality.

I would say that the currency in the US is the most effective, and long running disinformation campaign imaginable.


However, the way you word that question makes it impossible to offer anything more solid than that. You see, a good disinformation campaign usually has at least two tiers to it. One teir, is the part which actually distributes false data into the public consciousness, on any given topic, or to distract from a given topic. The other, is the part which seeks to bury the actual issue at hand, by controlling or destroying as much evidentiary material as possible on that subject, so that any ruse being used to distract from it, is less likely to be undone by chance discovery on the part of someone with gumption and morality enough to release the data in question to the public.

Therefore, identifying a scenario where hold in your hand evidence exists of such a thing, is somewhat akin to asking for a full list of people involved with the JFK assassination. It's a great thing to want, but your chances of getting it are nil, despite the likelihood that the data in question would be useful and probably shocking.

a reply to: HardCorps

You know Google is your friend.

but just to get you started.....

We don't waterboard terrorists.... oh wait yes we do.

We don't have secret prisons...... oh wait yeah we got those.

and the list goes on.

a reply to: HardCorps

It is illegal for the government to use disinformation on the citizens in the nation, but they spend billions of dollars doing this during the middle east conflicts.

We have

The US Information and Educational Exchange Act of 1948 (Public Law 402), popularly referred to as the Smith-Mundt Act, specifies the terms in which the U.S. government can engage in public diplomacy. The Smith-Mundt Act institutionalized the Voice of America and create additional exchange programs beyond the original Fulbright programs.

The Foreign Relations Authorization Act of 1972 amended the Smith-Mundt Act to include a ban on disseminating within the United States any "information about the United States, its people, and its policies" prepared for dissemination abroad.

Then in 2010 the government tried to amend once more the Smith-Mundt act to lift the ban.

This didn't go approved.

So by law the government can not use disinformation on its citizens, but that doesn't mean they can use other ways to achieve the same result.

Smith Mundt Act

publicdiplomacy.wikia.com...

Look up the Gulf of Tonkin incident on Wikipedia. The government lies all the time to distort truth and get what they want.

a reply to: HardCorps

Area 51

Actually, this is the perfect example.

Forget any alien/ufo speculation. It is a FACT that many test aircraft were developed there.

It is also a FACT that up until very recently, the government vehemently denied its existence.

WATCH FOX NEWS OR CNN OR ANY MAJOR NEWS SOURCE. THEY ALL LIE.

Here is one prime example of a liar

it is a big list



you could play this game all day

a reply to: captaintyinknots

Area 51 should not really count. Anyone with some aviation military experience knows a thing or two about what goes on in Nevada. Area 51 aka Dreamland, The Ranch, Groom Lake.... is home to skunk works projects, in other word Top Secret projects. No surprise that the government did not want to give up a skunk works location, despite the rest of the world knowing where it is.

a reply to: HardCorps

I have a question for you OP...

Can you please tell me one thing that the government has said that was not disinformation?

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: captaintyinknots

Area 51 should not really count. Anyone with some aviation military experience knows a thing or two about what goes on in Nevada. Area 51, Dreamland, The Ranch, Groom Lake is home to skunk works projects, in other word Top Secret projects. No surprise that the government did not want to give up a skunk works location, despite the rest of the world knowing where it is.

So, top secret projects cant count? That seems a bit too easy there....if the government is claiming one thing, and another is verifiably true, that, to me, counts as disinfo.

Course, its all semantics at that point.

originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: Antipathy17
a reply to: HardCorps

Bush's statement that Afghanistan had weapons of mass destruction.

Bush never stated that.
He suggested Iraq did..but not Afghanistan...
Afghanistan had OBL and a bunch of terror training camps. That was the justification, and it was enough.

hahah correct, typo.

originally posted by: Corruption Exposed
a reply to: HardCorps

I have a question for you OP...

Can you please tell me one thing that the government has said that was not disinformation?

The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

-Ronald Reagan

originally posted by: Corruption Exposed
a reply to: HardCorps

I have a question for you OP...

Can you please tell me one thing that the government has said that was not disinformation?

LOL

That would be a shorter list for sure

a reply to: HardCorps

For me that would be the DOJ paying for and sending protesters to Florida to protest the Travon Martin case as being perpetrated by a racist. Yep thats yours and mine tax money paying for protesters to forward the divisive government line of racism. This is covert disinfo by an administration that wants the citizenry to be distracted from the real issues of ongoing scandals and put forward a fantasy that Zimmerman was a racist white man, when he isn't even white, had black friends, and was a mentor to black kids. Source

Fine people we have elected...

" The attacks on bengazi were due to a video depicting Muslims as terrorists" Susan Rice, shortly after attacks. Proof it was a lie...ie: the email telling her what her talking points would be on the Sunday morning talk shows. Intelligence and the government knew full well it was due to a planned all-quida attack

a reply to: captaintyinknots
As an ex Navy man who had worked on COMSEC equipment I have to say: Yes, the military needs to have some things Top Secret for national defense reasons.

However the lies were are constantly fed are unacceptable.