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originally posted by: teapot
originally posted by: DeadSeraph
In the allegedly censored clip, Snowden also reveals that the U.S. had all of the intelligence regarding the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, 2001 but we unable to connect the dots.
“You know this is a key question that the 9/11 commission considered, and what they found in the postmortem when they looked at all the classified intelligence from all the different intelligence agencies, they found that we had all of the information we needed as an intelligence community, as a classified sector, as the national defense of the United States, to detect this plot,” Snowden said.
“We actually had records of the phone calls from the United States and out. The CIA knew who these guys were. The problem was not that we weren’t collecting information, it wasn’t that we didn’t have enough dots, it wasn’t that we didn’t have a haystack, it was that we did not understand the haystack that we had.”
Why did NBC not air this part of the interview? Is there any "new" information we can gleen from Snowdens remarks?
Maybe not new information, just confirmation that US intelligence services are not sufficiently competent to defend US soil? The segment was cut so as to not harm national confidence in the government and it's agencies?
originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
Snowdens public opinions of 9/11 are in the same range as Ron Paul's.
These are both smart guys, they know, they just won't ever say it publicly.
They have seen what has happened to others that have gone public with this.
originally posted by: fleabit
The funniest part of all this is how this probably grates at many here who both supported that 9/11 was an inside job, and then later praised Snowden for being a truthful hero. Once Snowden reveals something that is diametrically opposed to what many here believed in the past.. you have to choose a side. Must be a bummer for those who believe every single theory that comes down the pike.
Personally, I don't think 9/11 was an inside job, and as far as Snowden goes, I feel it was needed at a time where some parts of the government felt they were above all laws. I don't think the U.S. government is wrong in their belief that he is a traitor, because he was. Hero to many (including me), but.. yea.. there are secrets that really should remain secret, and it doesn't help to have someone like Snowden revealing as much info as he is. So I hope he remains free forever, and taught the alphabet agencies a bit of a lesson about thinking they are above all reproach.
it wasn’t that we didn’t have enough dots, it wasn’t that we didn’t have a haystack, it was that we did not understand the haystack that we had.” -
he simply stated all the evidence indicates the government was aware of the plot.
originally posted by: DeadSeraph
a reply to: tide88
Yet in your previous post you indicated you believed certain people knew it was coming and purposely let it happen (which I agree with, btw). So which is it? Did anyone in the U.S government know of the plot and consciously fail to act in your opinion? You seem to be saying 2 different things.
originally posted by: lme7898354
The problem I have with Snowden is yes he brought foward secret programs that not only we didn't know about but probably most of congress. Now our enemies have a window into how we collect data on them and have changed the way we do business. In my opinion freedom isnt free. I'm willing to give up some privacy issue in order to keep future attacks from happening, and Al Quaida has no plans on stopping the programs of terror.