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originally posted by: HarbingerOfShadows
a reply to: Annee
So atheism.about.com trumps stanford?
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Actually, agnosticism would be the default. You can not believe or disbelieve a concept you have not thought of. - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...
I believe that religious people have constant thoughts that "God" is watching or "walking" with them during their day. They say prayers, etc. However, an atheist doesn't actively tell themselves "there isn't a god" during the day and before meals. Your average atheist isn't being an "active" atheist, doing an "atheist thing".
originally posted by: imwilliam
a reply to: HarbingerOfShadows
I participated in another recent thread of yours and I'm getting the sense that maybe you'd like to see the level/quality of dialogue between atheists and Christians elevated . . . by both sides.
If that is the case, then I applaud your attempt and I sincerely wish you the best of luck.
Honesty, mutual respect, real scholarship/reasonably objective research & presentation and anything approaching a sense of collaboration are sadly missing in so many of the conversations that take place here on ATS between atheists and theists.
ATS would be a great place if people could bring their ideas/positions/arguments here and submit them for fair, respectful & constructive criticism . . . especially by people that disagree with them.
There are too many people on the site "advertising" their beliefs and promoting their agendas, (Whether that be theist, atheist or whatever), and not enough seeking to learn, grow, refine their positions, and lend others a hand in doing the same.
No offence intended but to say you know enough to come to the conclusion that there is not a God seems a little arrogant.
I could see it, if you were presented with a question, got information on each view and decided to pick a side or to remain neutral.
Yet that is not what you (resident atheist) are saying.
By the definitions I have seen what you are actually saying (to me anyway) is that you have been presented with the information but instead of making a decision or staying neutral you have chosen a third route.
You have decided that the question does not exist.........how does that work?
Actually, agnosticism would be the default. You can not believe or disbelieve a concept you have not thought of.
originally posted by: windword
I disagree... The default position of atheism is of the unconsidered prospect of a god existing.