Texas Restaurant Bans Gay Couple Because ‘We Do Not Like Fags’

originally posted by: sk0rpi0n
thats your second attempt this week to bring in a non-related subject into a thread.

That's your CONTINUED attempt to deflect.
Equal rights is part of the subject. It's not off topic.

equal rights as defined by...? You? The gay rights movement? Clarify first.

EQUAL. A very simple word. My daughter had it as a third grade spelling word.
Synonyms - unbiased, impartial, nonpartisan, fair, just, equitable

Definition of Equal

adjective
1. being the same in quantity, size, degree, or value. "add equal amounts of water and flour"
synonyms: identical, uniform, alike, like, the same, equivalent; More
antonyms: different, more than, less than
(of people) having the same status, rights, or opportunities.

uniform in application or effect; without discrimination on any grounds.
"a dedicated campaigner for equal rights"
synonyms: unbiased, impartial, nonpartisan, fair, just, equitable;
antonyms: discriminatory

evenly or fairly balanced. "it was hardly an equal contest"
synonyms: evenly matched, even, balanced, level; More
antonyms: uneven

2. having the ability or resources to meet (a challenge). "the players proved equal to the task"
synonyms: capable of, fit for, up to, good enough for, strong enough for;
noun: equal; plural noun: equals

1. a person or thing considered to be the same as another in status or quality.
"we all treat each other as equals"
synonyms: equivalent, peer, fellow, coequal, like;

Should all humans have equal rights???

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: sk0rpi0n
did the authors of your constitution intend 'fair and equal' to allow for gay marriage when it was written?

The authors did not make mention of marriage at all

in that case the matter of gay marriage is open to debate and discussion.

originally posted by: sk0rpi0n
equal and fair treatment is earned.

So your answer is .... no, humans shouldn't have equal rights.
Is that correct?

originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite
I think it's clear to anyone reading this thread or any other similar to it, who is happy in life and who is not.

I would feel pity and sorrow for people with hatred in their hearts if I didn't have better things to do.

Not wanting to be around people, not agreeing with their lifestyle and being vocal has nothing to do with hatred.

You and other confuse this very regularly.

I do not hate Homosexuals. I do not agree with their lifestyle, nor do I want my kids around it.

There is no hatred.

flyersfan answer the simple question. 'Equal rights' according to WHO?

a reply to: macman

What is it then? what kinda reaction would you say that is?

I usually don't like things i hate near me. but i would like a new definition tho.

originally posted by: sk0rpi0n
flyersfan answer the simple question. 'Equal rights' according to WHO?

That is a powerful question indeed.

originally posted by: sk0rpi0n
in that case the matter of gay marriage is open to debate and discussion.

There is nothing wrong with debate and discussion, this is to be expected in a free and open society. Eventually the matter will be settled either via the states or the courts as I previously mentioned.

originally posted by: sk0rpi0n
flyersfan answer the simple question. 'Equal rights' according to WHO?

Skorpion ... I already did .... Read the freak'n thread.
I gave the dictionary definition.

EQUAL - unbiased, impartial, nonpartisan, fair, just, equitable
It doesn't get any plainer than that.

You already stated that you don't ... you claim people have to 'earn equal rights'. Earn ?? WHO decides if they have been 'earned'?? Either something is equal or it's not. And, with your statement 'earn equal rights' .. you have said you don't believe in them.

originally posted by: macman

originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite
I think it's clear to anyone reading this thread or any other similar to it, who is happy in life and who is not.

I would feel pity and sorrow for people with hatred in their hearts if I didn't have better things to do.

I do not hate Homosexuals. I do not agree with their lifestyle, nor do I want my kids around it.

congrats you just earned your 'bigot' badge.

For those that can't figure out what the word 'equal' means ... here is a statement from the United Nations on how 'equal rights' is APPLIED to humans.

Declaration of Human Rights - United Nations General Assembly December 10 1948
Some excerpts -

Article 16.

(1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
(2) Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.
(3) The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.

Article 17.

(1) Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.
(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.

Article 18.

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

Article 19.

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

originally posted by: macman

originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite
I think it's clear to anyone reading this thread or any other similar to it, who is happy in life and who is not.

I would feel pity and sorrow for people with hatred in their hearts if I didn't have better things to do.

Not wanting to be around people, not agreeing with their lifestyle and being vocal has nothing to do with hatred.

You and other confuse this very regularly.

I do not hate Homosexuals. I do not agree with their lifestyle, nor do I want my kids around it.

There is no hatred.

Read my posts - I don't confuse a thing. You may like to take a look at the posts by the member I was replying to because it will give you some insight into what is a pretty dastardly individual, belonging to a rather nasty cult, living in a land where freedom and equality are foreign terms which are apparently incomprehensible.

What's more, you can't not agree with a homosexual's lifestyle because each person is different. How I am is different to my neighbour is different to you and my friends and family and their neighbours and so on and so forth.

I find it quite ridiculous that you think there is some sort of gay mandate on how each of them absolutely must behave, although it certainly would make it easier to "disagree" with to do so.

You can't shield your kids from a darn thing in this world and if you try they will either resent you for it, or end up socially retarded with less life skills than their friends.

originally posted by: luciddream
a reply to: macman

What is it then? what kinda reaction would you say that is?

I usually don't like things i hate near me. but i would like a new definition tho.

This is very simple really.

I don't agree with people, or want to be around things or actions.


There are things that I hate, and things I chose just not to be around. Same goes for people.

I feel bad for you, as you seem to have to hate things you don't agree with. Personally, I don't hate much, and it has nothing to do with the Gay community.

originally posted by: sk0rpi0n

originally posted by: macman

originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite
I think it's clear to anyone reading this thread or any other similar to it, who is happy in life and who is not.

I would feel pity and sorrow for people with hatred in their hearts if I didn't have better things to do.

I do not hate Homosexuals. I do not agree with their lifestyle, nor do I want my kids around it.

congrats you just earned your 'bigot' badge.

I think we can tell the difference between that member's misguided understanding and your own bigotry - don't try to lump them in with you to make yourself feel better.

a reply to: macman

You don't want your kids to be around homosexuals, or you don't want your kids to be around homosexuals in the act of having sex? I understand the latter, as I wouldn't want my young kids to be around ANYONE in the act of having sex, regardless of their sexual orientation.

But to say that you don't want your kids around homosexuals is a pretty naive notion. Someone that goes to your church may be gay. Someone in your neighborhood may be gay. One of your kids fellow classmates may be gay. The fact is, gay people live in our communities; they attend our schools, churches, grocery stores, malls, and movie theaters. How in the world are you going to keep your children from being around them?

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: sk0rpi0n
flyersfan answer the simple question. 'Equal rights' according to WHO?

.I gave the dictionary definition.

I dont recall asking for dictionary definitions of misused words. Your alibi doesnt answer the question I asked. Just WHO said ''equal rights'' means gays can get married.? Name a person...or organization.

originally posted by: sk0rpi0n

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: sk0rpi0n
flyersfan answer the simple question. 'Equal rights' according to WHO?

.I gave the dictionary definition.

I dont recall asking for dictionary definitions of misused words. Your alibi doesnt answer the question I asked. Just WHO said ''equal rights'' means gays can get married.? Name a person...or organization.

Many western countries, for a start. Aside from that, why do you require the explanation?

Equality is equality is equality - although apparently equality isn't important where you come from so it's likely you'll never understand the concept.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Well right. By those definitions of rights a restaurant owner should be able to refuse service to someone and the customer should be able to go elsewhere to eat, so I don't see a problem there.

a reply to: luciddream


Not at all. Big Earl should have the right not to associate with someone if he doesn't want to. Freedom of association and all that. I think that it is just as wrong for the state to tell Big Earl who to hang out with or do business with as it would be to forbid someone to do business with him.


Jessie Jackson thinks he has the right to free stuff and that some people are only "equal" if the government forces others to give them stuff and preferences.

a reply to: BasementWarriorKryptonite

Actually a lot of people want to make what he did illegal--I.E. forcing him to do business with people he does not like with anti-discrimination laws.