This is what insane looks like

I don't ascribe to the youth being so wrong today as they are a product of the society they live in and their upbringing.

These people do not really have any thoughts of their own as is the case with most societies.

I guess I am saying they are products of their environment.

OK, hit me with the "He chose to" or "It's all choices made by the individual" now....

Who teaches decision making to people?, who tells people they can be whatever they want to be when that's actually not true?, who puts pressure on them to perform mindlessly and neglects those who don't?.

This crap has been going on forever, just do a search on mass killings and murders and it will be revealed to you it is nothing new.

The kid does appear to have been a raging little punk ass regardless, but what teenage boy wasn't when he was that age?.

I know I was, but I didn't kill people for rejecting me....

After watching the video, what comes to my mind is that for the past 20 years or so, schools have been downplaying competition during playtime where every kid is declared a winner for fear of making anyone feel bad for losing. Rogers says how "unfair" it is that he is still a virgin and the girls don't pay attention to him. We're raising a generation of spoiled brats!

Yeah that kid had a major screw loose. From the video, I gathered that he was only going after the most attractive girls. Of course you're going to be shot down! 10 times out of 10, when I walk up to a gorgeous girl the look on her face is telling me 'keep walkin'. Maybe if he lowered his standards this wouldn't have happened and he wouldn't have been so frustrated.

originally posted by: ladyteeny
a reply to: 727Sky

i disagree to be honest... drugs have been around since the dawn of time for anybody to take... i lay the blame at processed foods door. the more we process foods, the worse our society gets. i don't think it has anything to do with drugs at all. but nice try at laying the blame at drugs door again despite no evidence for it.

Doctors didn't just prescribe them like candy either.....

Look at the corporate world and how they openly poison if not kill and yet they get away with it all in the name of making money.

Ever had the pleasure of having a psychiatrist experiment with your brain chemistry to get it just right to conform with todays society???

I have! I could have very easily went on a killing spree while being pumped up on 3 to 5 different meds, but I didn't.

I do agree that the chemicals in our foods can also be a potential factor as well though.

I caught a clip on the news where they said this punk was seeing a therapist. Hmmmmm, I am guessing most likely 727sky was onto something.

One thing for certain! You won't see the MSM bring up a possible association with psychotropic drugs though! Why? Look at the drug commercials and imagine the revenue they create for the broadcaster......

SO some nutter who could not get laid kills 6 people on average 195.000 people die from medical error's every year in hospiral
www.medicalnewstoday.com...

I have never heard a public outcry over this but if some nutter was to shoot 6 people per day 365x 6

oohh the people would go mad

Take that dog out behind the barn and give it a bullet. There is no fixing this kind of crazy. He has no love in his heart. If getting laid means that much, and chicks don't dig you because you are a creep, go rent a prostitute.

That was not what insane looks like...

That was what evil looks like....

this guy loves the sound of his own voice and you can tell he rehearsed bits in his head and thought he was cool as isht. Sad that he felt this way and disturbing that it went as far as it did instead of him bursting is whiny little spoilt bubble. Like someone said if it's over sex then lower your standards. Going on about how the popular kids didn't respect him? How about stop automatically thinking you have to fit into a certain group and go find real friends instead of complaining you arent bedding the hottest chicks and hanging with the coolest kids. Most of the people I've ever considered cool as hell never see themselves that way nor hang about in a group labled "cool kids" His parents should have beat the idea of being yourself into him.

Plus escorts exist, so does craigslist, so do hookers. I actually think maybe if he loosened up and stopped being such a massive D about it all maybe he'd have friends and girls instead of bringing misery to everyone involved.

SPOLIT SELFISH ARROGANT LITTLE TURD!

originally posted by: PLAYERONE01
ah yeah there is something wrong, this kid was loaded, he drove a beamer, his old man was the assistant producer on one of the biggest teen movies at this point in time. to quote Eddie Murphy "he would have had # hitting him in the street like freebies"
I'm not buying it.

As a disclaimer, all that follows is purely conjecture and I acknowledge it as such.

While his demeanor in the video is probably not how he behaved in those social circumstances that clearly caused him so much grief, people will pick up on that definitely-something-wrong-with-that-guy thread humming through his interactions. He also seemed (as many other posters have noted) incredibly narcissistic and entitled to the point of delusion. Even if he was "a gentleman" with good manners that entitlement would come across in perspective even if he was trying to hide it and I suspect he wasn't very good at hiding it anyway. Because of this over-developed and warped sense of what should be given to him, he may have been setting his bar for sexual gratification pretty high. Too high when coupled with that dark vibe. Perhaps who he considered worthy for his supreme "alpha" self limited his options enough. A synergy that just fed on itself.

To make matters worse, he is wealthy and not ugly at least, so by all reasonable accounts society says getting laid should have been easy for him and he was apparently failing spectacularly. That is a hell of an ego blow for someone who is that egocentric.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think for a minute that this was just about sex. I think that fundamentally the guy was broken but sex was what was what he wanted the most at the time; biologically he is at an age when that drive is really strong and when unsatisfied that sex drive often turns to aggression. Even further, (in relation to those narcissistic tendencies) he seemed to have not developed any self-regulatory or coping strategies emotionally for this biological inevitability. Really, this kid is an outlier that seemed to have (for whatever reasons) a potential mountain of behavioral issues stacked against him and he just cracked. In my opinion, a monster both born and made (please note, that this inference is not a rebuke for his parents), but still a monster.

I think his surface ah... social marketability shall we say, was actually a contributing factor to this anomalous social/behavioral circumstance and resulting tragedy.

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
There is def something fundamentally wrong with youth these days....
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But you see the narcissism now days in the younger generations, and its much much much worse then it use to be.

This has become a panic button for our age, and I'd urge you to look into it a bit further.

150 years ago a young student shot a teacher after having advances rejected. This was before facebook and everything else. I believe facebook and similar modern networks amplify the hatred of the isolated and spread it over a wider net, but this type of person has always existed IMO. The major difference is having access to a car, more bullets, and social media to explain it to everyone.

Persons say its because of entitlement, because people are given everything, it's because of male culture, because of misogyny ... but when it gets right down to it, if anything all of these cases have in common it's spiraling isolation and distorted world views.

It doesn't matter if a person is loaded, privileged, and made of solid gold ... mental illness, isolation, developmental issues, inconsistent punishments and the rest will make an imbalanced person incapable of the reasoning, empathy, and understanding to realize why they are in this situation in the first place. Removal of the entitlement may likely just lead to the same self hate and suicide instead of a rampage. The idea that money, material objects, or privilege leads to mental health isn't true, and it only reinforces the idea that well off people experiencing trauma don't need help.

Douglas5 also has an incredibly valid point, it isn't exactly like we have an epidemic sample group here. Even in the U.S, this is a rare occurrence which should therefore rule out using it to make blanket statements about society.

Guess all I'm saying is that it's tiresome to see people use these types of events to prop up their world view or personal politics.

If he was that bad and depressed about society then why not jus hang himself in that nice peaceful park?

The trouble is they now know the media at tension their going to get from it and to me that seems like just what he wanted

originally posted by: Thefarmer
If he was that bad and depressed about society then why not jus hang himself in that nice peaceful park?

The trouble is they now know the media at tension their going to get from it and to me that seems like just what he wanted

here here! point well made

Boy that kid was a real wimp! Twenty two years old and he cannot take the loneliness and rejection anymore! Try fifty some years of that little dude. When you are not getting sex, it leaves lots of time for hobbies and study. Make use of that time for something besides feeling sorry for yourself.

You know what gets me?
If you look behind this loon while he's talking, you can see the beautiful Cali sun shining off the palms. Had he gotten out of his Beamer and walked around there he might've met the woman of his dreams, but instead, he chose to act like a little spoilt punk--just a typical rich kid. His life was set. It could've been easy for him. I wish I had been born with that type of chance.

To bad he had to take people down with him.
For himself, lost a screw or two... propably would have ended up a serial killer...

a reply to: LDragonFire
Don't know much about the incident, but I'll say the video looks very contrived. He doesn't look sincere about his anger. There's no real emotion in his words. His phraseology is very odd for a kid his age. He's also very effeminate. I would not have suspected him to be interested in girls. That's all I'll say for now until I learn more.

a reply to: LDragonFire


He is full of #. A rotten over privileged kid that wanted to kill women. There was NOTHING stopping this misogynistic creep from making use of call girl services if he chose to and instantly ending his 'oh so painful' virgin life. He wanted to kill women period.

And some the responses on his videos??? FKN unbelievable..if I were a woman in the US, I'd be arming myself to the TEETH.

War on women


Put out or you're dead


having REALLY hard time remembering 'some' men...


Ro

originally posted by: Bilk22

Don't know much about the incident, but I'll say the video looks very contrived. He doesn't look sincere about his anger. There's no real emotion in his words. His phraseology is very odd for a kid his age.

I was thinking all of that while watching the vid. It was like watching some poor acting.
Have too wonder what effect vids like this have on kids these days, and whether vids like this are created for a purpose?

originally posted by: CallYourBluff
I thought he made some good points.

What part of what he said are good points? Looking at you, because we can't afford to look away.

a reply to: VoidHawk
This might sound weird, but that is exactly how I would expect a robot trying to be human to sound like.