The War on Bacon

a reply to: Kali74

I have never known any conservationist groups that were right of center. Can you site some?

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: sheepslayer247

Okay but again we are painting something with a broad ideological brush that isn't accurate. Animal rights activists exist in the whole political spectrum. Some animal rights groups are political and are clearly left of center, but all of them? No way.

I agree with you and I think you have made some very good points rhetoric and such, but I am not talking about the political side of this issue. My focus is on the animal rights activism disguised as medical or nutritional advice.

If they want to push an animal rights agenda, be open and honest about it. There's nothing wrong with fighting for what you believe. This group is not being honest.

That's my point. I'll stay out of the political side of this.

a reply to: OpinionatedB

Okay, so searching up didn't turn up anything so I may have stretched myself there. I figured there had to be some, but google asked me if I meant Conservatives rather than Conservationist... LOL! Then I was promptly served up right wing sites attacking various animal rights groups. But in discussing environmental and animal rights issues over the years, right here on ATS, I've found common ground at least more than once with right-wingers.

a reply to: sheepslayer247

I hear ya.

a reply to: Kali74

To a certain extent you will, I am much more right wing than you and we are on the same side concerning the keystone pipeline for instance. But that is where you have the possibility of more than one reasoning having the same outcome. My reasoning may be quite different than yours, but on the issue itself we would meet.

Make sense? However, in the right wing you don't have many conservationists or animal rights people, (although we can all agree that real abuse of animals is wrong) those types of groups are mainly filled with those left of center or to very very left of center... most of those care more about the either the environment or animals than they do people. Whereas someone leaning toward the right cares more about the rights of people.

That is why you have people accusing the left wing with a paint brush in this type of discussion. The rights of individual people to many groups like this just don't matter.

That's it. I've had enough of this threatening of banning things that the majority likes, just to placate a few. I'm starting a team called the Redskins and play in a place that sells bacon as an option on everything.

a reply to: UnBreakable

You can play my team, the Texas Legal Mexican Workers. Melted Cheddar Jack filled sausages, Swiss filled kielbasas, gravy flavored soda and 128oz Pepsi Throwbacks. Oh and tubs of trans fat covered popcorn. With bacon bits.

a reply to: Magnivea

I would rather have a good hamburger than a bacon double cheeseburger. Just onions and some butter on the bun. I do like naturally aged foods to a point, but too much can raise a person's blood pressure. It isn't the salt that raises blood pressure for most people, the culprit is excessive tyramines. But both seem to be in most foods.

You're right, this culture has gone bunker with fads. People avoid fats when they should be watching their carbs. The other countries have traditional foods, specific recipes that have been handed down for generations. Here they throw a bunch of stuff together and add lots of attractant chemistry and everyone is happy and a little doped up. Society itself causes the doping I am seeing. Everyone thinks they can eat anything. The people I know that are in the poorest health, but happy even though they are taking meds, are eating these attractant foods and recipes. They do not understand the word moderation and believe that natural foods are much better than prepared foods, but do not understand that some natural foods contain this chemistry. If they avoid this chemistry they get anxious but if they overeat it and it is not in a meal, they are not satisfied with the meal because they have caused problems at the cellular level by consuming too much. Bacon makes people feel good, it utilizes this attractant chemistry. It is supposed to be a treat. Too much and it messes us up. If it was the only food containing this chemistry a person eats, it would not be a problem but so many foods, both natural and added are in our foods here in America.

a reply to: rickymouse

Well that was a much more well-written summary of what I was getting at so thank you, have a star.

Totally agree with the hamburger. I want to taste beef, not a vague beef flavor. It's like cucumbers on anything. Alone I love them. On anything at all, good luck tasting what's under there.

I personally am on a very strict diet in hopes of improving my overall health which would make fighting my MS that much easier. It's amazing the amount of things you can grow in a small aeroponic and hydroponic setup. Still, I can't grow a hamburger that I can't have for another 7 weeks

originally posted by: Magnivea
a reply to: UnBreakable

You can play my team, the Texas Legal Mexican Workers. Melted Cheddar Jack filled sausages, Swiss filled kielbasas, gravy flavored soda and 128oz Pepsi Throwbacks. Oh and tubs of trans fat covered popcorn. With bacon bits.

For you and UnBreakable: What a great name for a football team.
Sorry about the 'skins, UB.. I think it's taken already.

If you both make it to the Super Bowl I'll have the ghost band
play gratis ... Dave and the Problematics. A special bunch
of guys that do nothing but late 50's / early 60's greaseball
do-wop, but original and with a twist... we use enough ampli-
fiers to induce tectonic plate trauma in areas that haven't been
active since Lisa Ann was a virgin. We INVENTED Hellbilly.
And don't hurt her..... I love her.



The Platters would slide right off OUR table, the lubricity is
right around Andy Granatelli's peanut oil.
Black Chinos, white crew socks, and two pounds apiece of Swift
Premium store-brand knockoff drippings for each pompadour.

originally posted by: rickymouseToo much and it messes us up.

That's all you needed to say really, about most things.
Just a pity the fat victim brigade want to blame everyone else for the choices they make to be unhealthy.

I eat plenty high sugar/corn syrup/trans fat 'food' daily, but I'm not fat because I consume no more than I use in calories/joules/energy.
Sustained famine conditions always result in underweight people, fat people have only themselves to blame, except kids, then it's the parents fault.

I just wanted to say.

I cooked up two pounds woth some pancakes earlier.

It was delicious.

"I only eat bacon once a month, but I will defend to your death your right to eat it everyday if you want to" - Biigs, just now.

a reply to: liejunkie01
I hope you enjoyed it.
So long as you consume less energy than you used then there is no problem. Just a pity the fat apologists want to blame the product instead of their own personal choices regarding the amount they consume.

a reply to: Biigs

lol, you can NEVER go wrong with epic meal time..

There are 2 things in this life that will earn you a world of hurt if you threaten them. What? No, not my husband and kids.





Touch my coffee and bacon, and you'll live to regret it.



This activist group needs to get a life. What's next, a war on delicious, delicious Hooters wings? I don't think so, people!

a reply to: OpinionatedB

a reply to: beezzer I remember when I was young they came out with those ad's about pork being the "other" white meat. (implying the stuff was good for you)

So true and dont forget the butter fiasco . Dont eat butter it will clog your arteries use margarine instead for a healthy heart.

Fast forward 30 years on no we were wrong the partially hydrolyzed oils in margarine is far worse for you ,butter fat is really good for you after all.

How about the joke coffee and chocolate is horrible for your health. Fast forward 30 years coffee and chocolate is good for you.

How can we believe these quacks when many European countries have outlawed fluoride or bromide in their water and many outlawing GMOs and many pesticides while our quacks keep their mouth shut and palm open for Monsanto payback while feeding us full of crap and outlawing whole milk . Who is greasing their palm to come down on bacon .

I would almost bet you will find a connection between these quacks and a competing meat or a substitute for bacon.

Apparently some people didn't have mothers to teach them proper manners. Mine taught me that it is impolite to comment on what other folks chose to eat. These days I get lectured on my food choices by pimply faced children despite the fact that I'm very healthy, not fat, and quite active for my advanced (in their eyes) age of 60 years.
I had a dear friend who, at the age of 95 was told by his doctor that his cholesterol levels were "too high" and that he must go on a diet. When he looked over the diet provided to him and saw that it didn't include bacon or sausage, he promptly threw it away. On his next visit to the doc he was asked if he'd been following the diet, to which he replied, "Doc, I'm 95, if I live another 5 years or so, good, but I'm not going to do it without my bacon and sausage---what would be the point?" The poor doc sputtered on about his chances of dying of stroke. My friend ignored him but in the end he did die of a stroke---at age 106.
Each time I fry up a pound of bacon for some yummy bacon, lettuce, onion and tomato sandwiches, I salute him!

The sad part is, you could most likely mobilize more people to protest against this than people protesting against the loss of their civil rights. Heck, take away peoples TV and you'd have an instant revolution.

originally posted by: Lostinthedarkness
I would almost bet you will find a connection between these quacks and a competing meat or a substitute for bacon.

I blame Hormel.