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originally posted by: Black_Fox
[So Until then...follow it and maybe become president?
aclu.com
For 3,278 people, it was nonviolent offenses like stealing a $159 jacket or serving as a middleman in the sale of $10 of marijuana.
An estimated 65% of them are Black.
Many of them were struggling with mental illness, drug dependency or financial desperation when they committed their crimes.
None of them will ever come home to their parents and children. And taxpayers are spending billions to keep them behind bars.
originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: alienjuggalo
Complete lunacy, lacks scientific backing and is built on early 1900's propaganda.
originally posted by: TheJourney
I for one do not factor the law into my assessment of right and wrong, and appropriate behavior, whatsoever.
originally posted by: brandiwine14
It does not sound like it was just him and his friends sitting around getting stoned on pot brownies. Was he selling them to people who had no clue what they would be taking?
I'd change my tune if it everyone knew exactly what they were eating.
originally posted by: g146541
a reply to: alienjuggalo
The guy will serve his time.
When in Rome and all...
If he did not like the law, there are a few other states he could have gone to.
Until stupid laws can be changed...
originally posted by: onequestion
Reminds me of the George bush speech where he talks about the rule of law and the law of the jungle.
originally posted by: Blue Shift
originally posted by: TheJourney
I for one do not factor the law into my assessment of right and wrong, and appropriate behavior, whatsoever.
The law has nothing to do with right or wrong. You're correct about that. It's about sanctioning certain types of behavior within a society. Don't think for a minute that society doesn't have the power to tell you what you can and cannot do. If you don't follow its rules, it can send police to arrest you and lock you up, and in some extreme circumstances can even kill you. Your personal views on right or wrong are irrelevant. Might makes right when society and laws are concerned.
No, you don't have to follow society's rules. But you must be willing to face the consequences if you don't.
Now, a smart person is going to be very careful about their behavior. A smart person will avoid getting caught. Righteous indignation and flaunting the law is a very foolish thing for somebody to do when they have little or no authority or power.
originally posted by: one4all
a reply to: Jennyfrenzy
I dont want to derail the thread,but here is some food for thought in reverse psycology format.
If you took every day month and year year of every jail or prison sentence given in the US for ANY MJ RELATED CRIME,and then attatched a VOTE to that year of an Americans life,and then looked at the number in front of you you would crap your pants,then if you compared that number of VOTES which had they supported MJ legalisation would have kept the voter out of prison -- that huge number in front of you -- to the number of ACTUAL votes which were used to keep MJ criminal you might find an interesting quandry to deal with.
Because not everyone votes and in some areas the numbers are wayyy less than you think,dont believe MSM, the actual physical votes cast in any year are a very very small number of the potential votes,this means that the representative Statae groups can go to a Federal level and represent say 10 million people based on the actul physical votes of say 50 000 people and do this legally.So really you have 50 000 people deciding the fate of 10 000 000 people because the majority failed to vote but their impacts or unused votes were carried forward to the next level by the voting MINORITY.So it is really a majority or the minority type of representation taken to the next level.
Now say you have 50 000 voters and you break it down to 4 political parties,now you need to give those votes to SOMEONE,it is a lot easier to control 50 000 people by fiscal influences,now we have a majority of 50 000 people who will vote for the winning party projecting the wishes of an entire Country,so lets say that one party gets 26% of the vote and wins and becomes representative of all 50 000 ....really 10 000 000 people.
Now you have 13 000 people who have the same perspective representing 10 000 000 people.
Anyone can influence 13 000 people,and discourage 37 000 broken down into 3 with barely any fiscal effort and organisation,can you now see how modern democracy is a bastardised form of True Democracy and this misinterpretation is supported and preserved by TPTB .
Unless you have a 100% voter turnout by law you cannot have a True Democracy,and once you have a National 100% voter participation in todays world you no longer require representative action or levels of Government in fact you no longer require government you require Civil service.
Ask yourself why there is no Nationwide realtime voting online and you will have your answers,because that is the way every Americans true wishes would be accurately projected with one single conduit with NO LEVELS OF REPRESENTATION required and Governments would be obsolete immediatly and replaced with Punatively accountable Civil Servants who only follow orders and have no decision making inputs.
It is a failure to vote with 100% participaction at a State level which breaks open the first small hairline crack that the bad apples take root in,you will find that the State borders were designed to prevent a True Democracy from ever being built.
In a True Democracy one mans law is the law of all men,in America today we see nothing near a true democracy at work,not at all.
A true Democracy WAS NEVER possible prior to the internet providing a realtime global conduit which catalyses every single voters voice immediatly and clearly at the same time.
There is no need for anything but Employees of the People .
A True Democracy in its purest form must be a Global Species level Democracy,at that level it provides OPTIMAL HUMANITARIAN impacts.