Hurricanes are shifting, putting new areas in danger- study says

Scientists are taking note of a trend concerning the migration of Hurricanes and Typhoons away from the Equator toward the poles. This migration seems to be 35 miles each decade. What does this mean? A change in weather patterns that could be dangerous to people in some ares that are not used to powerful storms.

Hurricanes and typhoons at their peak intensities are shifting away from the equator and towards the poles, scientists reported Wednesday, potentially placing coastal areas that are unaccustomed to deadly storms in their path if the trend continues. Satellite data going back to 1980 show a global average shift of about 35 miles each decade on both sides of the equator, the experts announced in the peer-reviewed journal Nature.

The proof is more prevalent in the Pacific, where there are more of these storms than the Atlantic on average. However, there is no doubt that it's linked to climate change.

For Kossin, the key takeaway is that scientists should double down on figuring out what’s driving the expansion of the tropics because that seems to hold the key to stopping, or at least slowing, the shift of big ocean storms to new areas.

The tropics’ expansion has been linked to manmade problems: ozone depletion, air pollution and greenhouse gases tied to global warming, Kossin noted. But figuring out to what extent each plays a role is needed before finding a fix.

I think climate scientists know we are F.U.B.A.R. and there's nothing that can be done to stop it so they are just sounding the horn to prepare for a "told you so moment..." I hope I'm wrong in my assessment but we'll see. Doom Porn!! Gotta love it! Now, what says ATS?

www.nbcnews.com...

Seriously,

Do people really expect the weather to stay the same forever?

Serious question there.

I'm starting to wish I had a nickel for every climate study and story. I wouldn't have to work.

originally posted by: liejunkie01
Seriously,

Do people really expect the weather to stay the same forever?

Serious question there.

I'm starting to wish I had a nickel for every climate study and story. I wouldn't have to work.

Of course not. If you read the article, it says that Scientists are trying to figure out the extent of mankind's role in this whole mess. We can't do anything about what mother Nature does but we can do something about ourselves.

originally posted by: lostbook

Of course not. If you read the article, it says that Scientists are trying to figure out the extent of mankind's role in this whole mess. We can't do anything about what mother Nature does but we can do something about ourselves.

What, take shorter showers and use different light bulbs?

Our entire civilization has to fundamentally transform itself to fix this, if indeed we're even at fault. Are you prepared to give up your car? Computer? Pavement? Hot water? Air conditioning? Plastic?

Let's face it. The vast majority of the population would have a collective stroke if they had to give up their phones, to speak nothing of electricity in general.

But that's level of change needed to be truly effective. Everything being discussed now as possible "remedies" to the situation are so short-sighted as to be laughable, betraying their true nature as excuses to implement further social control.

a reply to: NthOther

That's the hard part. In order to fix what we've done, if it needs being fixed, would require monumental changes. Fortunately, 3d printing may be just the right tech at the right time to implement some of those changes.

a reply to: lostbook

I disagree,

As a common person, which we all are, unles you are a billionaire. We have no say so in what we can change.

Corporations are limiting access to the availability energy and transportation.

330,000,000 Americans cannot just give up the automobile. Granted not everyone drives one, but every single Amercan depends on trucking in some way or another. Even if you live off the grid, you still need supplies sometimes.

People have to provide for their families. Our economy is set up on oil. To change this means a complete restructuring of our way of life, economy and living.

I hate to have a pessimistic view of it ll, but capitolism says money makes the rules.

and the one's with no money are forced to follow those rules.

The climate is tied to the solar output of magnetic fields, sun spots, etc. I read an article by one of the most accurate weather forecasters and astrophysicist that has very strong arguments. The link is below. Basically, CO2 has nothing to do with climate change and we have been in a cooling period. The climate change farce is being pushed by cherry picking data and is all about charging you and industry through the nose for energy. Don't fall for it. It is not man-made.

The Debate on Global Warming / Climate Change

The sun is what is causing the wild fluctuations in the weather. Again, they changed from Global Warming to Climate Change because the data and models were wrong the IPCC put out. They are not going to give up easily and will continue to put forth claims by scientists that are dependent of government funding for their research dollars. This guy puts out some of the most accurate long range weather reports in the world. Governments, corporations, etc. use his forecasts.

Have a look around the weatheraction site besides the article above. It may enlighten some here.

WeatherAction is involved in the Global Warming /Climate Change debate where we point out that the world is now cooling not warming and there is no observational evidence in the thousands and millions of years of data that changes in CO2 have any effect on weather or climate. There are no scientists in the world who can produce such observational data. There is only effect the other way, namely that ocean temperatures control average CO2 levels.

originally posted by: liejunkie01
a reply to: lostbook

I disagree,

As a common person, which we all are, unles you are a billionaire. We have no say so in what we can change.

Corporations are limiting access to the availability energy and transportation.

330,000,000 Americans cannot just give up the automobile. Granted not everyone drives one, but every single Amercan depends on trucking in some way or another. Even if you live off the grid, you still need supplies sometimes.

People have to provide for their families. Our economy is set up on oil. To change this means a complete restructuring of our way of life, economy and living.

I hate to have a pessimistic view of it ll, but capitolism says money makes the rules.

and the one's with no money are forced to follow those rules.

I agree 100% which is why I'm so excited for the potential of 3-D printing tech. Just imagine if we were able to buy licences from manufacturers to make/build our own products at home or at the office....Can you see the potential savings in carbon output cut from the atmosphere. We wouldn't need as many gas guzzling trucks or trains spewing fourth toxic fumes and corroding the atmosphere. Granted there have been some positive advances in carbon reduction over the years but the emerging economies are going to undo those positive changes. What if these emerging economies get hold of this 3-D printing tech and use it in the way I'm proposing...? Then we have a whole new ballgame....Then I think we can seriously talk about "..righting this ship.."

What corporations are limiting your transportation or energy?
If I don't have a car I have buses, taxis, trains etc. As long as I pay my electric bill I have power.
Some people just thrive in the roll of victim. Oh poor me everything is out of my control.
fn reply to: liejunkie01

originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
What corporations are limiting your transportation or energy?
If I don't have a car I have buses, taxis, trains etc. As long as I pay my electric bill I have power.
Some people just thrive in the roll of victim. Oh poor me everything is out of my control.
fn reply to: liejunkie01

Seriously?

Not everybody lives in a city. Try taking a cab, train, or bus from a cornfield.

Besides taxis, buses, and trains use energy that expells CO2 from production/consumption.

Also as long as you pay your electric bill to the select few electric corporations, you will have power, which keep raising rates at an alarming rate. Unless you have tens of thousands of dollars for alternative power generation. Then you will be taxed accordingly.

Want a different power compamy provider, make a few phone calls and recieve the next bill, then tell me how that works out for you.

If you cannot see that our options are limited due to big business, then I am afraid it may be time to get your eyes checked.

in the small picture: we are looking at the migration of the Hadley cell

see: kitesurf.wikia.com...

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The Hadley cell mechanism is well understood. The atmospheric circulation pattern that George Hadley described to provide an explanation for the trade winds matches observations very well. It is a closed circulation loop, which begins at the equator with warm, moist air lifted aloft in equatorial low pressure areas to the tropopause and carried poleward. At about 30°N/S latitude, it descends in a cooler high pressure area. Some of the descending air travels equatorially along the surface, closing the loop of the Hadley cell and creating the Trade Winds.

Though the Hadley cell is described as lying on the equator, it should be noted that it is more accurate to describe it as following the sun’s zenith point, or what is termed the "thermal equator," which undergoes a semiannual north-south migration. ...

in the Big picture.. something is causing the Hadley cell winds to migrate northward---far more north than any historical time... a aberration of the climate dynamics since probably the time of the Siberian Traps, a period of Volcanism which caused more than a million square miles of magma to spread over the Earth surface creating new land.

We are now in a period of major volcanic activity with huge amounts of volcanic ash suspended in the atmosphere which in turn affects the wind patterns/jet streams and then the oceanic currents which then increase the changes in the trade winds & wind patterns in a step-by-step pattern of Change from the norm of our weather /climate


the doomsdayers & climate-change due to human activity BS'ers are spinning the observations to their advantage while tossing out the actual, factual data that points out the reason for the present extremes in weather patterns...
It ain't human activity and CO2 from modern technology transportation/energy production pollution...
Its the decades long upturn in the Earth Mantle convection currents getting hotter and re-invigorating Volcanoes and resurrecting long dormant Volcanoes which also spew ash into the atmosphere at all altitudes...

Europe. Russia, the EU have all had to suspend aircraft flights because of Ash clouds from these increased eruptions worldwide

I wish all those krazy climate changers would just stfu

welcome to Ragnarok, where we will possibly have no 'Summer' above 49degrees to the Arctic
and 100 degree Spring(s) from the equator to the 47' parrallel

I read about this today on accuweather. I almost posted about it.

I'm in a hurricane zone in the Gulf of Mexico. This means that hurricanes can develop and strengthen much closer to my area than they have in the past and it's going to be a progressive trend.

Does this mean that each Hurricane season from now on will slowly get worse? I guess time will tell but the US and UK are right in the path.

originally posted by: JohnPhoenix
I read about this today on accuweather. I almost posted about it.

I'm in a hurricane zone in the Gulf of Mexico. This means that hurricanes can develop and strengthen much closer to my area than they have in the past and it's going to be a progressive trend.

Does this mean that each Hurricane season from now on will slowly get worse? I guess time will tell but the US and UK are right in the path.

in my post (just above yours) I noted that the new weather storm tracks will be further north... instead of continuing along a near equatorial path---hurricanes in the Atlantic will more than likely head to NC rather than the Gulf of Mexico... and there will be 80% of all hurricanes which will hit closer to the Mason-Dixon line as opposed to Florida-Georgia-SC in the future

what the Gulf States must be alert for are hurricanes forming around Cuban waters or even Pacific Hurricanes which regain strength in the Gulf and become killer storms in that putrid bowl of water caused by the BP deep water horizon fiasco

originally posted by: St Udio
We are now in a period of major volcanic activity with huge amounts of volcanic ash suspended in the atmosphere which in turn affects the wind patterns/jet streams and then the oceanic currents which then increase the changes in the trade winds & wind patterns in a step-by-step pattern of Change from the norm of our weather /climate

Do you have a source for this, somewhere?