Shocking Poll : more than 1 In 4 Adults Worldwide Harbor Anti Semitism

a reply to: dashen

First of all, its NOT shocking.

Second of all, who cares?

Thirdly, I do not believe the historical accounts that we have been FORCED and SUBMITTED into accepting!!

a reply to: cuckooold

I find it to be a more stereotypical attitude with the idea of Jews as money grabbers who control the world

My pet peeve with Jews is their use of pejoratives (i.e. Shiksa), to describe others who are not of the Jewish persuasion. When an individual starts in with the verbiage, I fully expect that person to get the beat-down of their life. A community that fails to police its own, is unworthy of respect.

Willful divisiveness is what I see as the Jewish problem. It's not my problem ... it's theirs. As long as I'm not asked to fix it, as long as I'm not drawn into it ... I've really got nothing against Jews at all. I've got more of a problem with Catholics telling me the best I can do is Purgatory. LOL

a reply to: bitsforbytes

And what good will that do? How will prayers help the Middle East situation? They haven't done anything before.

Which god are you referring to as there's a few in question. Are you referring to Allah for the Muslims? The god of the Jews? The Christian god? You have to be careful as praying for the wrong one means that god will kill the other group of people, based on what these religious people claim about their gods and smiling ones enemies and all that.

Probably best not to pray. How about just a happy thought, a smile on your face and a song in your heart?

a reply to: nenothtu

I didn't say it was a success. I said their actions and behaviours towards the Palestinians was that of genocide. To effectively TRY and wipe them out through concerted attacks, concrete walls, sanctions, dwindling land space and military assaults. I didn't say they were successfully, which I then implied it was an ironic situation because you would have thought the Jewish people would be more tolerant, given the horrible events of WW2. Apparently not...

You just ran with the word 'genocide' and turned it around to imply they were succeeding which I was not. You're an idiot.

a reply to: nenothtu

lol. I could have sworn you said something about not posting in these threads...

originally posted by: nenothtu

originally posted by: OpinionatedB


My answer on the 20 billion is still NO. You cannot guilt us into supporting you. You all are wealthier than we are. thank you very much.

I have to agree there. If Israel needs more money, it should get a job, not walk around with it's hat held out. It's not my week to buy stuff for Israel that I can't even buy for myself.

Kinda reminds me of some of the panhandlers around here...

true that. they keep coming back for more because you said yes once... wont stop hounding you either until you say no a few times. I suppose that's what we will have to do with Israel too.

I do have to say, at least the panhandlers don't come at you with polls on how racist the world is when you indicate your answer will probably be no though. Got to give panhandlers that... they play the woa is me card a little more tactfully. I guess its harder to do that when your one of the wealthiest nations in the world per capita.

So those of you critical of the Israelie government, yet not of the people can honestly say then that the government, any government is not a true reflection of the people that they represent?

a reply to: beezzer

yes. I do believe that.

Think about it. Is the US government a true reflection of the will of the American people? No. So why would Israel or any other country be any different?

originally posted by: OpinionatedB
a reply to: beezzer

yes. I do believe that.

Think about it. Is the US government a true reflection of the will of the American people? No. So why would Israel or any other country be any different?

So that would also apply to the Palistinian people/government as well, correct?

a reply to: beezzer


Yes you are correct. There is no agreement among the Palestinians on what to do with the government there. They are just as unhappy with government entities also.

a reply to: OpinionatedB

So in order to be fair, the Palistinian government is as much to blame for the current issues as the Isralie government, correct?

Yet it is the government of Israel that carries the onus of responsibility. And more that it's fair share of criticism, correct?

a reply to: beezzer

I think they both make mistakes yes. I also think Israel should carry most of the weight of the blame for what has happened and been happening, They are the one's causing the problems. Just because the Palestinian government doesn't answer to the problem in the manner people might like doesn't make Israel less culpable for stealing land people have owned for 3000 years, for making Palestinian Jews second class citizens in their own land simply for the crime of being there first, and for all the many things they have done.

Just because the Native Americans didn't answer to the British in the manner many Indians may have liked does this make the Native Americans wrong and culpable for what the British did to them?

a reply to: OpinionatedB
Don't you mean, "Israel's government"?

originally posted by: OpinionatedB

Just because the Native Americans didn't answer to the British in the manner many Indians may have liked does this make the Native Americans wrong and culpable for what the British did to them?

Therefore, any criticism of the government of Israel by ANYONE in the west, might then be seen as hypocritical, correct?

a reply to: beezzer

It definitely could be construed as hypocritical yes, since we are sitting on stolen lands. However, this goes to something my husband and I have discussed before.

And that is, when this whole thing started it was started by another generation, so what of the generations now where this IS their home.

So key now, is to find a solution that is beneficial to all parties....

a reply to: beezzer

when I say US I mean government, not people... when I say American I mean people. When I say Israel I mean government, when I say Jews I mean people... and I think we can safely assume the citizens of Israel are jewish.

a reply to: OpinionatedB

Governments come and go.

Borders to countries are drawn and redrawn and redrawn again and again and again.

Nationalities change, alliances change, attitudes change.

To disparage a culture, a race, for a temporary standing (in human-cultural-age terms) seems narrow-minded and short-sighted to me.

a reply to: beezzer

I don't get your point? How am I disparaging a race?

originally posted by: OpinionatedB
a reply to: beezzer

I don't get your point? How am I disparaging a race?

You're not, but I see many who do.

a reply to: dashen

I know were its coming from the hassle that Israel keeps causing the world and the disgusting actions of the big Banking family who are mostly Jewish are cause resentment towards the majority's Jews who are innocent.

Its a shame but its what always happens when a small bad minority cause issues, the innocent majority get the flak.

a reply to: beezzer

There are many Jews who do also. Look up Mizrahi Jews and find out more about them.(not just what you may first see on the surface either) Most of them are second class citizens in an Ashkenazi dominated Israel.

I'm NOT saying it makes it right, its wrong all the way around. But when you have one dominate group that is racist then the people against them will appear racist, simply for being against their policies.