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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: ketsuko
Sounds like a personal problem to me.
A loyal costumer base can offset some one coming in and under cutting prices..
Or provide the better service and it won't matter.
Now if we want to get into what a store like wal mart does, well that is a different thread IMO.
and where is the store's half coming from? their profits. how do they get the profit to pay their half?
originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus
Why can't we split it, you pay half and I will pay half. I know prices always rise and should in a healthy economy. But, I don't know why businesses think the consumer should pay for every penny of the cost. Making a profit is good but so are customers with money in their pockets.
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
That advice was rather pointed. Enjoy what you do. Be better than your competition. And make sure your are profitable because no one else is going to help you (nor should they). My philosophy on business is simple; you should be able to keep as much as possible and you should not expect to be bailed out by anyone as that is not their problem. The risk and the reward both need top be present, and that is what motivated me and I am sure motivates other entrepreneurs.
originally posted by: MOMof3
Why can't we split it, you pay half and I will pay half. I know prices always rise and should in a healthy economy. But, I don't know why businesses think the consumer should pay for every penny of the cost. Making a profit is good but so are customers with money in their pockets.
originally posted by: LDragonFire
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
That advice was rather pointed. Enjoy what you do. Be better than your competition. And make sure your are profitable because no one else is going to help you (nor should they). My philosophy on business is simple; you should be able to keep as much as possible and you should not expect to be bailed out by anyone as that is not their problem. The risk and the reward both need top be present, and that is what motivated me and I am sure motivates other entrepreneurs.
I put into bold the part above and I wonder if you paid minimum wage because if you did you certainly did get lots of help from the government subsidizing your employees. If you paid over minimum wage or a livable wage then I would give you a tax break.
originally posted by: LDragonFire
I put into bold the part above and I wonder if you paid minimum wage because if you did you certainly did get lots of help from the government subsidizing your employees. If you paid over minimum wage or a livable wage then I would give you a tax break.
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: Sremmos80
Yes the costumer keeps the doors open, not you living in a fancy house with 5 cars.
The costumer does not need to lining your pockets, and taking on the cost's and taxes that come with owning a business..
Nobody forces you to shop somewhere, people are free to spend their money wherever they choose.
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
Taxing a small business should be done on the money that is taken out of the business by the owner for personal use. Taxing businesses is just taxing the customers of the business.
I have always said that, business never pay taxes. Never. You do.
originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: proximo
This is about passing cost it takes to run a business to some one else.
This has nothing to do with war or guns or humans inherit nature, that is a gigantic thread in it's self.
I am not asking for utopia here.
Just simply why it is ok for some to pass off cost to some one else for a business that they started and plan to make money off of
any money a corporation has ultimately comes from the consumers, yes. after all, how ELSE do corporations make money that they can spend?
originally posted by: jacobe001
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
Taxing a small business should be done on the money that is taken out of the business by the owner for personal use. Taxing businesses is just taxing the customers of the business.
I have always said that, business never pay taxes. Never. You do.
I am curious what your take is on the money spent to bribe politicians, via Lobbyists, Donations etc
Is it the consumers paying for that as well?
originally posted by: MrSpad
Coporate profits are their highest in history. Corporate taxes are at their lowest in modern history. During the golden age small buisness the 40 and 50s Coporate taxes were more than double what they are now. Has any of this massive reduction corporate taxes meant a reduction of costs for consumers? Nope. All it has meant is more profits for companies.
originally posted by: MOMof3
Where do we employees/customers go when our costs go up, including taxes? I think the form capitalism has taken the last thirty years is OCD about profits and guarantees.
I remember when people wanted to own small businesses so they did not have to be an employee. Making a life and a living was more the goal. Maybe the time of small businesses is over.
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: Sremmos80
Yes the costumer keeps the doors open, not you living in a fancy house with 5 cars.
The costumer does not need to lining your pockets, and taking on the cost's and taxes that come with owning a business..
Nobody forces you to shop somewhere, people are free to spend their money wherever they choose.
originally posted by: jacobe001
Not entirely true.
The Economic Trade Policies the Government has in place brought in by lobbyists have a huge effect on what consumers have available to them in the marketplace.
originally posted by: proximo
If a small business such as a restaurant is making large profits it is because they are providing food and a dining experience people really enjoy.