Arrested for Speaking Out at School Board Meeting - Video

a reply to: WhiteAlice

let's not...because it's not the topic of the thread....the book is merely a prop in the argument.

the topic is about the guy getting arrested(which he told the officer to do, by the way)

it's about the attention whore dad making a scene, and getting arrested, so he can try to spin it into some kind of conspiracy against "decency"

originally posted by: smurfy
Do you mean like the crowd scenes in Congress? or when Whinston Churchill said to Lady Astor she was ugly? nobody got arrested, a two minute rule for parents who could go the whole mile on observed affects? obviously not the concern of this school board. Are you a comedian by any chance?

no, i'm not....

and what exactly do these apples have to do with my oranges?

Replied in wrong thread LOL too many going at once.

originally posted by: eXia7
Wow, everybody just turned a blind eye. That is to be expected in today's numbed down society.

What really got on my nerves was the woman that just kept repeating "Sir" "Sir" to make him seem like he's a looney just because he's trying to voice his opinion. She is playing the role of the useful idiot pretty well as she tries to downplay the guy's concerns as if they were just bunk.

If it were me, I'd make a scene by telling everybody to look closely at what is happening, because it will be you next.

*snip*

she kept saying "sir", because he was speaking over someone who was already speaking....that's rude...

he'd already had his turn, said his piece, and he was disrespecting another parent, by stepping on what he was saying...

you can't be loud, disruptive, and disrespectful at an official function like this, and expect there will be no consequences? how does nobody understand this?

a reply to: Snarl

-rolls eyes-

so then he should have been allowed to continue to rant on, and deprive the other parents there of their time to be heard?

he was rude, disruptive, and completely out of line...what would you have had happen?

a reply to: stirling

did i step into bizarro world?


what the hell is wrong with all of you?


i have a great idea...let't get rid of ALL of the mods here...after all, they oppress everyone here, like that cop oppressed that rude asshat, for being a rude asshat...

is everyone really so caught up in the desire to have something to bitch about, that they'll latch on to a rude jackass, play him up as a victim, and manufacture a fake injustice to be butthurt about, when there are ACTUAL injustices out there, and REAL instances of police abusing their authority, and the people?

The problem here is that all the other "outraged" parents didn't stand up and tell the police to leave, they all just sat there and watched the poor guy get taken off. If three or few other parents intervened they wouldn't have been so successful in taking the guy away.

a reply to: Vortiki

who says the other parents were "outraged"?

am i the only one paying attention here? the meeting wasn't specifically about the book....it wasn't some special meeting convened for angry parents to bitch at the school board....it was just a regular school board meeting...

what possible reason would they have to stand up, and stop the officer from arresting a man who was being rude and disruptive?

a reply to: Daedalus

He wasn't being rude or disruptive. Why are people so 'by the book' these days. Yes a two minute rule was in effect, but that man had serious concerns that weren't being addressed. He wasn't cutting anyone else off until after HE started talking... oxymoronic? Yup. But he was also being a parent, something that school administration clearly has no empathy for, which is a very scary thought.

Morales > Rule Books

R.I.P Autonomy

originally posted by: virraszto
I can't believe there was no outrage from the other parents as this was taking place! No one even questioned what
was happening. Going from the video alone, I'm shocked that this man was actually arrested. It's not like he caused
a scene. Is there going to be an officer at every school board meeting ready to arrest the first person who speaks
out of turn now?

I think if the cuffs went on while he was in their presence, it would have been a different story. At least, I hope it would have been a different story.

The officer waited until they were outside because of this, I'm pretty sure.

originally posted by: 0bservant
a reply to: Daedalus

He wasn't being rude or disruptive. Why are people so 'by the book' these days. Yes a two minute rule was in effect, but that man had serious concerns that weren't being addressed. He wasn't cutting anyone else off until after HE started talking... oxymoronic? Yup. But he was also being a parent, something that school administration clearly has no empathy for, which is a very scary thought.

Morales > Rule Books

R.I.P Autonomy

so interrupting someone who's already talking, and then ranting, and depriving the other attendees of their time to be heard, ISN'T rude and disruptive?

he had his turn, but that apparently wasn't good enough, so he needed to make a scene....

am i seeing a different video, or something?

originally posted by: 0bservant
a reply to: Daedalus

He wasn't being rude or disruptive. Why are people so 'by the book' these days. Yes a two minute rule was in effect, but that man had serious concerns that weren't being addressed. He wasn't cutting anyone else off until after HE started talking... oxymoronic? Yup. But he was also being a parent, something that school administration clearly has no empathy for, which is a very scary thought. Morales > Rule Books R.I.P Autonomy

You might want to catch up. He had already said his piece. He was being disruptive in debating the guy who had said that HE was not comfortable with other parents determining what HIS child should read....plus:
-he had done an interview with a right-wing anti-union and anti-gay organisation before the school board meeting, along with who knows how many others
-he brought a camera crew with him
-he is a lawyer, and he repeatedly challenged the cop to arrest him
-his camera crew complained after he was arrested that there was no media in the parking lot to record it

You've been played.

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

thank you.

a reply to: Realtruth

From what I see in the video, he wasn't arrested for speaking out...many people were speaking out. He was arrested for not complying with an officer, and the officer was called in because he was causing a disturbance at the meeting.

I see nothing controversial here, the guy told the officer "you will have to arrest me"...and he got what he asked for.

I'm guessing that he was in the frame of mind that if he had not broken the law then the officer couldn't really tell him what to do. I'm guessing that he thought that breaking a 2 min rule and passionately putting forward his opinion wasn't breaking the law.

If talking loudly or talking over someone for a few seconds was a crime then every person on the planet would probably be in jail by now.

Im not saying he was right or wrong (because im not 100% on US law) but i think that was his mindset.

a reply to: Realtruth

I have also mentioned this scenario in another thread. It is horrific that our schools have become a breeding ground for smut and trash. Oh yes, the other thread was about how a schoolteacher made a big deal out of a child quietly reading the bible to herself during free time.
So this is what we have now in our secular humanist education system, founded by John Dewey, a humanist himself who believed children are owned by the Supreme State.

Like his 9th grade daughter and her freinds aren't already exposed to hardcore porn on their cellphones (supplied by the parents). It must be comforting to be so dillusional.

originally posted by: virraszto
I can't believe there was no outrage from the other parents as this was taking place! No one even questioned what
was happening. Going from the video alone, I'm shocked that this man was actually arrested. It's not like he caused
a scene. Is there going to be an officer at every school board meeting ready to arrest the first person who speaks
out of turn now?

Why would they be outraged, he had his say and kept interupting the meeting and then refused to leave when asked to by the cop. The rest of the Parents were most likely ready to toss him out on their own. Where ATS might see and attack on free speech a parent at the meeting sees a loud annoying guy who keeps interrupting a meeting after he had already had his say. The parents want to move on get the meeting over and expect people to shut up and let that happen. Of course after he got not support from the other parents or the board after he had his chance to speak he no doubt wanted to cause a scene for eveybody he sees as not supporting him.

It is just like taking out loud during a movie, if they ask you to leave and you do not they arrest you. Freedom of speech protects you from being persecuted by government. It does not give you carte blanche to talk, argue and interupt other peoples actvitivties or in this case other people also trying to speak about things.

freedom of speech. you have it or you don't. he didn't. that's the rub. everyone else there was acting the perfect meek fearful citizen. screw politeness. sometimes you have to speak over others if they won't let you make your point. arrested for this? being 'rude and disruptive' (which i dispute) is now an arrestable offence? and some of you people are happy with this? so sad. good luck with the future. although to be fair, some of the respondents here will no doubt revel in a society in which the authorities will dictate your every thought, deed and move by threat of law.

originally posted by: RoScoLaz
freedom of speech. you have it or you don't. he didn't. that's the rub. everyone else there was acting the perfect meek fearful citizen. screw politeness. sometimes you have to speak over others if they won't let you make your point. arrested for this? being 'rude and disruptive' (which i dispute) is now an arrestable offence? and some of you people are happy with this? so sad. good luck with the future. although to be fair, some of the respondents here will no doubt revel in a society in which the authorities will dictate your every thought, deed and move by threat of law.

I'd suggest that you do a little more research on the topic...hell, maybe just read the whole thread...before you go dropping the 'you people' line. After all...deny ignorance, right?