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“I think one of the most unfortunate things my party did the last three years was not offer an alternative to health care,” Ross responded. “I’ve always felt that way. I think it’s absurd when I tell people that this isn’t what you should do, but I don’t have an alternative for you.”
Ross continued by explaining that he had proposed a patient healthcare bill that would cover pre-existing conditions, permit the interstate sale of insurance, and allow for health saving accounts saying, “I think these are good ideas, I would support them.”
Ross then admitted, “My party decided to not bring anything up.”
originally posted by: schuyler
The Democrats forced us to jump off a cliff, so it's "absurd" that the Republicans didn't offer us an alternative cliff to jump off of?
Obamacare doubled my premium for worse coverage. We can't get government off of our backs if we continue to let them into our lives a policy at a time. Soon there will be nothing left for us to choose because the government will choose everything for us "for our own good."
originally posted by: snarky412
What really is starting to piss me off is Obama and his fan club acting like there is no problems what so ever
And anyone who claims otherwise is mistaken
originally posted by: benrl
And what of the duty of congress to debate?
Does that not exist anymore?
OR that of the Judicial to not cow tow to the executive on issues?
To place blame on one branch is to buy into the theater of the Two party divide.
originally posted by: schuyler
I'm glad you brought that up because if you will remember, there WAS NO DEBATE!! The Democrats controlled both houses of Congress and rammed through Obamacare WITHOUT EVEN CONSULTING the GOP. They didn't even include them in their "deliberations," where they "debated" among themselves.
You can't have a debate if you don't let the other side speak, precisely what the Democrats did. And THAT, along with a sufficient number of Presidential lies (If you like your plan, you can keep it!) is what allowed Obamacare to pass.
“I wish we had an alternative. It would make — you know what’s unfortunate? for the next six months, we’re going to go into an election knowing that we’re not going to do anything to address health care. Because we’ve gone so far in the last three years saying no, that we don’t have an alternative to say yes to, ” he said, adding, “I think the American public, when they go to vote, are going to look at credibility before they look at substance, and I think that’s going to have a play in it.”
originally posted by: schuyler
The Democrats forced us to jump off a cliff, so it's "absurd" that the Republicans didn't offer us an alternative cliff to jump off of?
Obamacare doubled my premium for worse coverage. We can't get government off of our backs if we continue to let them into our lives a policy at a time. Soon there will be nothing left for us to choose because the government will choose everything for us "for our own good."
originally posted by: Cuervo
The lawmaker in the OP is saying that we should have at least looked for better water to jump in instead of telling people to stay on the ship.
originally posted by: benrl
If I recall the REPS refused to come to the table... I guess being a fan of a team comes with a bias.
House Democrats Take Health Care Debate Behind Closed Doors
Take One Step Closer to Going-It-Alone Through Reconciliation
Washington, Oct 15, 2009
Washington, DC – Ways and Means Democrats today shut down the committee process, blocking Republicans from offering amendments to H.R. 3200, the House Democrats' health care legislation. In doing so, Democrats rammed through a letter to the Budget Committee that paves the way for health care to be considered under reconciliation – which requires only 51 votes for passage in the Senate as opposed to the normal 60 votes.
originally posted by: Southern Guardian
Oh Republicans/conservatives had alternative solutions... well not solutions.. rather that we should give the insurance companies what they want and pray that they'll be nice enough to lower their costs (or atleast stop their decade long premium increases) as the result.
That is, allow insurance companies to sell across state lines (which essentially tramples on the constitutional full faith and credit clause as this would allow insurers to ignore other state laws and regulations and abide by only one state i.e corporate friendly Delaware)
Oh yea tax credits for families, which isn't really a long term solution. Rather a short term one that does nothing to stop the hiking premium increases imposed by health corporations, in fact knowing this, it might make it worse. It does nothing to address the exclusions on all these pre-existing conditions either.
Ah here's my favorite republican solution. Eat right! don't get diabetes and don't allow yourself to get pre-existing conditions and you'll be fine. What a lovely alternative republicans came up with there! really!