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reply to post by AfterInfinity
Well, an even more interesting thing is that apparently these Satanists in question aren't even the arch-humanist Laveyan type, but apparently are based entirely off Satan as the heroic literary figure from John Milton's "Paradise Lost" and Anatole France's "Revolt of the Angels." The Satanic Temple - The Canon.
Seems these folks were the same group are spear-heading the effort to put the Satanic statue beside the Ten Commandments in Oklahoma.
They even have a Facebook page, LOL: The Satanic Temple - Facebook
reply to post by G0v0D47
Actually, the Ten Commandments would at least make some sense in the setting of a courthouse, alongside representations of the Code of Hammurabi, the Roman Twelve Tables, the Magna Carta, the US Constitution etc. The "Baphomet With Kids" these guys are proposing makes no sense except from an overt kind of "in your face" political statement. Surely the Ten Commandments reference God but aren't necessarily promoting God per se as much as the idea of Law ... and as far as the Baphomet representing Satan ... you might as well erect a life-sized can of Red Devil Lye.
In my opinion.
reply to post by Gryphon66
I get upset because I see a knee-jerk reaction to issues like this where it is becoming "wrong" to dislike something.
It's not enough just to be for "freedom of speech".
You have to agree with what is being said.
Even on this thread I had to actually qualify WHY I disagreed with the Satanists.
It's not enough now just to disagree. That is equaled to hatred, prejudice, bias. Now any opponent has to qualify WHY.
Political correctness run rampant.
It almost makes me want to disagree with something JUST because the pack is baying in concert.
reply to post by G0v0D47
Agreed on the points of both your examples! Perhaps "Decalogue" would be even better.
Oh, any number of multi-cultural examples could be considered, although I just spit a little bit of coffee at the screen thinking about "Do as thou wilt ..." and a bust of Uncle Al's head being graven in stone in OK ... but still, if Baphomet is going to have a place, it should be next to Jesus, Moses, Buddha and the rest of the ... er, "god-figures" ... does that make sense?
reply to post by beezzer
Wait. You are mad because I asked you to defend your beliefs? Lol. That's pretty funny. I didn't think you'd be a fan of ignorant opinions. Guess I was wrong.
There is more than one kind of Satanist!
The different kinds are not like Christian denominations ... comparing them is more like saying Christianity, Judaism and Islam are all the same because they share all but a few figures.
Theistic Satanism is not the same as Atheistic.
Hell, some Satanists don't even believe in Satan, some believe in Set or Lucifer or Cthulhu.
As to how I know this ... let's just say it's a hobby.
Q: On that note, what do you think is the biggest misconception people have about the Satanic Temple?
A: Obviously we play with misconceptions in such a way that will jar these people into, hopefully, reevaluating whether we’re really this sinister cult of homicidal maniacs, or if we’re having a laugh at their expense.
The most common misconceptions that are going to be applied to us are the misconceptions that are applied to Satanism in general, and that being that there is legitimacy to this idea that there are roving hordes of Satanists conspiring in the background with mobile crematoriums and inserting subliminal messages in music.
Q: [...] so many people associate a Satanic Temple with evil and danger, but really what you’re preaching is love and acceptance and tolerance.
A: Yeah, but I think there’s a value in doing it in the name of Satanism, too, because it forces people to reevaluate the arbitrary labels we sometimes put on things. I actually have a long background in studying witch hunts and the idea of Satanism and, in honesty, Satanism is just that: an idea.
When you go back to Old Testament times up to modern history, what we think we know about Satanism is always something manufactured by people more of the Westboro church camp than actual people practicing Satanism.
reply to post by FlyersFan
I don't mind students soliciting for their church to their classmates during their free periods (lunch etc) - thats a students personal right to express themselves but there should not be adults from churches even Christian churches on school grounds soliciting in an organized manner thats also approved by the school.
This santanic church has some ideas though i do not think school kids should be exposed to, especially in a school setting.