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After all having so much power to play with constitutional rights and be arrogant enough to circumvent laws, can go easily on anybody's head.
HauntWok
reply to post by neo96
Specifically targeting people for their political beliefs is not, nor has it ever been a function of the IRS.
The FBI found that they did nothing wrong.
Benghazi was not over a GD video, and are the people responsible for it either dead or sitting in jail ?
ARE THEY ?
I dunno, go to Libya and find out.
What is that tripe ?
The guns were bought legally. Were they not? The purchaser had every right to buy guns, did he not? He could do with those firearms whatever he pleased, could he not? When you buy firearms in bulk, sometimes it's hard to keep track of all of them.
So, the purchaser decided to give those guns to a small business owner AKA a "Job Creator" who is in the business of importing a valuable commodity that many people in the United States seem to enjoy. The firearms simply were to protect his investment in his product.
So I ask again, what do you have against guns now? And what do you have against small business?
He will go out kicking and screaming " its cos im black" like the goon that he is
neo96
reply to post by marg6043
After all having so much power to play with constitutional rights and be arrogant enough to circumvent laws, can go easily on anybody's head.
Must be nice to get to pick and choose what laws matter, and what doesn't.
After all he has 'vast amounts of discretion' of 'enforcement' ! !
Holder claims 'vast amount' of discretion in enforcing federal laws
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
And Holder absolutely needs to go.
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
I am merely replying in the same manner as the OP does in similar threads. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you as it were.
The weapons were bought legally. And according to the OP's own modus operandi, any law that does not reflect his own personal belief must be null and void. Therefore, giving those weapons to the drug cartels must be ok, because to think otherwise means that in this country there should and needs to be some sort of gun regulations.
Gunwalking", or "letting guns walk", was a tactic of the Arizona Field Office of the United States Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), which ran a series of sting operations[2][3] between 2006[4] and 2011[2][5] in the Tucson and Phoenix area where the ATF "purposely allowed licensed firearms dealers to sell weapons to illegal straw buyers, hoping to track the guns to Mexican drug cartel leaders and arrest them.
Unfortunately the OP doesn't believe that there should be any regulations on firearms. Therefore, the gun sales and what the legal owner did with those guns is all good.
Therefore Holder did nothing wrong except for losing track of the guns that he was trying to keep track of. Darn.
Another, smaller probe occurred in 2007 under the same ATF Phoenix field division. The Fidel Hernandez case began when the ATF identified Mexican suspects who bought weapons from a Phoenix gun shop over a span of several months. The probe ultimately involved over 200 guns, a dozen of which were lost in Mexico. On September 27, 2007, ATF agents saw the original suspects buying weapons at the same store and followed them toward the Mexican border. The ATF informed the Mexican government when the suspects successfully crossed the border, but Mexican law enforcement were unable to track them
Less than two weeks later, on October 6, William Newell, then ATF's Special Agent in Charge (SAC) of the Phoenix field division, shut down the operation at the behest of William Hoover, ATF's assistant director for the office of field operations.[34] No charges were filed. Newell, who was Phoenix ATF SAC from June 2006 to May 2011, would later play a major role in Operation Fast and Furious.[4]
Also according to the OP's modus operandi anyone who is wealthy can do no wrong. Because wealthy people are better than anyone else by virtue of being wealthy. Therefore even though the recipient of the firearms were a notoriously dangerous drug cartel. Being wealthy must mean that they are automatically a "Job Creator" and therefore above any law that would prohibit that
Unless of course the OP is simply being partisan which I have been accused of and apparently is a bad thing. Well, I've been accused of being partisan as far as not leaning hard core right wing. Which to some including the OP is treason deserving of death
Here's the simple truth as far as fast and furious goes.
1. The ATF "purposely allowed licensed firearms dealers to sell weapons to illegal straw buyers, hoping to track the guns to Mexican drug cartel leaders and arrest them.
Which is a violation of the the LAW, and is ENTRAPMENT.
Why should there be ?
WHY ?
Since the previous law that says 'thou shall not harm or kill' already covers it, and that isn't talking about the 'ten commandments'.
That is one of those other 'ten commandments' that gun regulations VIOLATE.
What the hell is up with that political trolling ?
There's some more political trolling because the only one who has brought 'politics' in the thread is the accuser.
As the instability in Mexico increased that means INCREASED illegal immigration, and we all know who benefits from that.
The Holders who are are urinating on state rights, and the LAWS of this country picking, and choosing what ones matter, and what ones don't.
Fortunately the United States is a secular country and not a religious country and therefore the ten commandments of Moses doesn't apply.
Oh I see, so if it's a law you agree with, then they are urinating on that law, if you disagree with that law it's a treasonous violation of the Constitution. Seems pretty subjective to me
Amendment X The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Where do people think the Bill of Rights came from ?
Oh I see, so if it's a law you agree with, then they are urinating on that law, if you disagree with that law it's a treasonous violation of the Constitution. Seems pretty subjective to me.