Aliens made Pumapunku? (CampKill)

originally posted by: bottleslingguy
a reply to: Mr Mask

Ok so why is it any different that they are andesite like it's not just about as hard as diorite?

Hardness makes diorite and andesite desirable for carving. This is because hardness allows for very, VERY fine polishing.

1000 years before the GP, Egyptians carved this diorite bowl, among other diorite objects.

In Moundsville Ala., approximately contemporary with the PP andesite, Mississipian culture carved this bowl from a diorite boulder.

This carved diorite statue is from Sumer, circa 2100 BC.

Diorite (and andesite) were often carved and shaped in the ancient world. Did they all have lasers? (Which, btw, wouldn't be very useful for carving or shaping stone.)

Harte

originally posted by: bottleslingguy
a reply to: Mr Mask

Ok so why is it any different that they are andesite like it's not just about as hard as diorite? How bout those joints at Giza? Still avoiding that one? See that's what I'm talking about, I make one little slip and you are all over it, I ask you something hard and you ignore it and get all indignant that I'm getting off topic. You brought up the poured in forms idea concerning Giza and haven't said another word about it.

You didn't slip. You have quoted Daniken time and time again with saying diorite and granite. It isn't a typo. Its you adhering to a known hoax and proven lies.

How is Andesite different? Well its not as hard and cultures have been carving it for thousands of years with precision and detail that rivals the fairly "new" site of Pumapunku.

MM

originally posted by: bottleslingguy
a reply to: Mr Mask

Hey newsflash your buddy kept harping on the linear subject. I keep asking you to explain how the poured in forms theory accounts for the joints between the blocks but you ignore that until you find something else to cling to. Ok now I don't think you are a linear thinker. Now I believe you are bipolar lol

The evidence at PP is found in the rocks themselves with forensic evidence such as someone cut a one cm groove into andesite stone and drilled small holes inside the groove. No one can show how that is done with bamboo technology leading a rational person to think whomever did it must have had higher technology and because the ancient people claim they had contact with aliens one could rationally conclude the aliens either did it or gave the humans the technology and then took it away because you don't just forget that kind of stuff offhandedly. And don't use that old standby excuse "well they must've been really innovative in order to get precision like that with rocks by hand." That kind of thinking is ridiculous.

1) The holes and groves you are talking about are in the sandstone blocks. Not the andesite ones.

2) Yes you can do this with simple tools. The very tools found on location all over Pumapunku's floor.

3) No it isn't bamboo technology. They were making complex metal tools (also found on site).

4) MOST IMPORTANTLY- NEVER did the makers of Pumapunku ever claim aliens created Pumapunku. There is no evidence of them saying anything of the sort. That is just more Von Daniken lies.

Don't you understand this yet? 100% of everything you say supports this AA theory is 100% garbage invented in the 60s by Daniken.

Nothing you are presenting is listed in any academic source material ever...

This is why you in need of educating yourself on Pumapunku and all the other nonsense you keep quoting from hoaxers.

MM

originally posted by: bottleslingguy
a reply to: Mr Mask

Hey newsflash your buddy kept harping on the linear subject.

Hey news flash...he kept harping on it because each and every time you were shown to be confused, wrong or fooled by hoax material, you reverted to saying everyone providing you with "logical and supported facts and evidence" suffered from "linear thinking" and then said you understand this more because you use "nonlinear thinking".

Then you failed to understand nonlinear thinking means illogical thinking.

Then you said Albert Einstein was a nonlinear thinker because you linked to an Ehow user submitted crap article with all the scientific credibility of an Eharmony page.

Sir...face it...in your life you have spent no time studying the facts and only a handful of hours swallowing hoaxes. You are not presenting any evidence of anything you "believe" other than showing us all you are just swallowing a TV show instead of following paths of scientific knowledge.

MM

originally posted by: bottleslingguy
a reply to: Mr Mask

Back around page 21 you got a comment flagged as off topic.

The three posts that were removed from this tread were three people mentioning a system error that was happening when posting. ATS had a small hiccup within it's system.

There was no hissy fit. Lets just chalk this up to you being wrong once again and absolutely unaware of the facts.

Perfect score for you thus far.

MM

a reply to: Mr Mask

ok whatever you're right. go on with your awesome life and happy mother's day

originally posted by: bottleslingguy
a reply to: Mr Mask

ok whatever you're right. go on with your awesome life and happy mother's day

I know I'm right (as are the others in this thread using logic and facts). I'm just glad you finally came around to seeing that.

Also, I don't support mother's day. Its not a real holiday and my mom is celebrated every day. But thanks!

MM

originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: bottleslingguy
a reply to: Mr Mask

Ok so why is it any different that they are andesite like it's not just about as hard as diorite?

Hardness makes diorite and andesite desirable for carving. This is because hardness allows for very, VERY fine polishing.

1000 years before the GP, Egyptians carved this diorite bowl, among other diorite objects.

In Moundsville Ala., approximately contemporary with the PP andesite, Mississipian culture carved this bowl from a diorite boulder.

This carved diorite statue is from Sumer, circa 2100 BC.

Diorite (and andesite) were often carved and shaped in the ancient world. Did they all have lasers? (Which, btw, wouldn't be very useful for carving or shaping stone.)

Harte

The Hammurabi Stele was carved in black diorite around 1770 BC, presumably without Alien technology.

We have a replica here in the Oriental Institute of Chicago museum.

All of this everyone is saying is perfectly fine. But, explain how extreme amounts of these ancient ruins or mysterious places fall on straight line paths from one another? It's is the AA episode "Aliens and the Secret Code." People with no contact with one another living at different times building monuments, tombs, etc. all on a straight line path with other distant places. As seen on points on this electromagnetic map of earth as predicted originally by Plato 4.bp.blogspot.com...

a reply to: Anonyomus

Considering that there are absolutely millions of ancient sites around the world, go ahead and cherry pick a few of them. You'll be able to make any pattern you like out of them. Which is what the picture you provided did.

Which sites were chosen and why?

The answer is "the ones that made a nice pattern for the drooling masses in front of the teevee"

originally posted by: Anonyomus
All of this everyone is saying is perfectly fine. But, explain how extreme amounts of these ancient ruins or mysterious places fall on straight line paths from one another? It's is the AA episode "Aliens and the Secret Code." People with no contact with one another living at different times building monuments, tombs, etc. all on a straight line path with other distant places. As seen on points on this electromagnetic map of earth as predicted originally by Plato 4.bp.blogspot.com...

I watched that show and the "straight line" that circumnavigated the earth, on which all these sites fell into, was ONE HUNDRED MILES WIDE! That is too big a margin of error for a technology advance alien race surely.
I do believe that an alien race modified our DNA in the past and created us as we are today but some of these 'coincidences' are blown out of all proportions.
Puma Punku will remain an enigma until we invent a time machine and can go back and find the answers to all the questions regarding our past.

originally posted by: Anonyomus
All of this everyone is saying is perfectly fine. But, explain how extreme amounts of these ancient ruins or mysterious places fall on straight line paths from one another? It's is the AA episode "Aliens and the Secret Code." People with no contact with one another living at different times building monuments, tombs, etc. all on a straight line path with other distant places. As seen on points on this electromagnetic map of earth as predicted originally by Plato 4.bp.blogspot.com...

Its easy to explain...its false.

There is no evidence of sites falling perfectly on any lines or locations that show a worldwide pattern of math or a sensible system.

Its a fabricated story and another lie offered by a TV show (and the liars in said show) that is easily eaten up by people who refuse to do proper research into matters.

Take any three ancient sites in the millions of ancient sites and you can report a "system of connection" between them by drawing lines. It don't make it so. There is no evidence (as in zero) of this being true or supported by proper research.

MM

originally posted by: Anonyomus
All of this everyone is saying is perfectly fine. But, explain how extreme amounts of these ancient ruins or mysterious places fall on straight line paths from one another? It's is the AA episode "Aliens and the Secret Code." People with no contact with one another living at different times building monuments, tombs, etc. all on a straight line path with other distant places. As seen on points on this electromagnetic map of earth as predicted originally by Plato 4.bp.blogspot.com...

Can you explain that electromagnetic map? What do the points represent? Are you saying electromagnetism was predicted by Plato?

originally posted by: conundrummer

originally posted by: Anonyomus

All of this everyone is saying is perfectly fine. But, explain how extreme amounts of these ancient ruins or mysterious places fall on straight line paths from one another? It's is the AA episode "Aliens and the Secret Code." People with no contact with one another living at different times building monuments, tombs, etc. all on a straight line path with other distant places. As seen on points on this electromagnetic map of earth as predicted originally by Plato 4.bp.blogspot.com...

Can you explain that electromagnetic map? What do the points represent? Are you saying electromagnetism was predicted by Plato?

I can explain it.

That isn't an electromagnetic map.

Harte

originally posted by: conundrummer

Can you explain that electromagnetic map? What do the points represent? Are you saying electromagnetism was predicted by Plato?

It's a map of "Ley lines", not magnetism.

Why are the History channel allowed to tell lies and spread disinformation?

originally posted by: JorWhi
Why are the History channel allowed to tell lies and spread disinformation?

It's not a lie if it ends in "?"

Just ask Erich Von Daniken.