US Meddling with Ukraine’s Internal Affairs by Dispatching Mercenaries to Southern Regions

bjarneorn

TechniXcality
damn I wish the west was doing more

Do what? are you a nut job, who wants a world war over what ? a couple of nazis in Ukraine?

They're not nazis

So stop using it as an excuse


And I believe the same was said in 1938


It will never ever stand

reply to post by TritonTaranis


You maybe correct but...... One could argue that by saying; If the US government did not go into Iraq then there might not have been a civil war where 90% of the deaths came from as you say.

I dont remember hearing of a civil war there until the states went in and bombed the crap out of them. They went in there for no reason. Iraq had nothing to do with Afganastan, but yet the states had to invade them and start a civil war like all the other countries in the past 13 years.

reply to post by bjarneorn

Its coming down to a world war regardless of what I think fool

TritonTaranis

They're not nazis

It will never ever stand

They're nazis ... nationaliists and socialists ... that's a nazi. Except in your teeny brain, the word is only associated with Germans.

And seriously ... what's not going to stand? The war against the muslim world? The war against the "taliban" in Afghanistan?

Do you know that the war in Afghanistan is a war crime? Do you have any understanding that warring against people, because of they identify themselves is a genocide? But that's probably ok to you, because they are "taliban" ... that means "justifiably murdered" in your book, along with their donkeys too.

In your book, it's ok to murder Russians ... right, so Ukrainians going on a nazi rage to "clean out Russians" is ok, to you. Russians, don't have right for sovereignty ... because you don't like them.

And your statement "it will never stand" ... rhetoric from George "Adolf" Bush.

Crazy King George.

To be honest I don't think anyone can blame the USA specifically, though I could be mistaken outfits like blackwater can be hired by any country or state, there only allegiance is to the highest bidder

TechniXcality
Its coming down to a world war regardless of what I think fool

Really?

And do you think, moron that that is going to help you?

We, don't like the Roman empire ... never have, never will. We don't care, wether they speak italian, latin, russian, german or english ... WE WILL make the Roman empire extinct.

So, you be a real brave man and walk down that path ... just be sure you know what the stakes are.

bjarneorn

TechniXcality
Its coming down to a world war regardless of what I think fool

Really?

And do you think, moron that that is going to help you?

We, don't like the Roman empire ... never have, never will. We don't care, wether they speak italian, latin, russian, german or english ... WE WILL make the Roman empire extinct.

So, you be a real brave man and walk down that path ... just be sure you know what the stakes are.

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5 STARS !!!

Without the AngloSaxons 'nose poking' around, what a peaceful world will that be !!

Anywhere they barge their 'gay' noses, there is mayhem of all sorts.

TechniXcality
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Ive done my time and absolutely wood give me some resources some guys some apc`s a supply line and ill give you some kick ass.. thats why when the guy at the store says would you like to donate to the poor african children I say hell no. BecauseiI refuse to donate to a warlord with guns while the people starve. REalisticly they need an armed force protecting the food drop

Couldnt that be said about almost every US president? They all go to war and non of them have eradicated homlessness or poverty. so essentially you work(ed) for gun happy dictators that DO NOT help its own poor and starving children.

TritonTaranis

victor7
Russian should and most probably will move in if Ukraine government carries out a crackdown on civilians. Russia has already warned Kiev junta to not do that and rest is a matter of few hours only before junta starts to lose eastern and southern regions.

And NATO has already pre warred Russia

The Ukrainian government withhold all rights to take out terrorist activities and armed take overs within there boarders Russia does not

It looks as if Ukraine is already rounding up the Putin bankrolled separatists

Kharkov Ukraine

FAIL

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Seems your cognitive and comprehension abilities are rapidly fading.

There is no legal government in Ukraine. All thugs, criminals and psychopaths, nothing else. They themselves disbanded Ukraine as a nation in February.

Any major rights violation in the eastern regions and Russian forces will move in. NATO warning or whining will be set aside. Wait and watch for yourself!!

TritonTaranis

bjarneorn

TechniXcality
damn I wish the west was doing more

Do what? are you a nut job, who wants a world war over what ? a couple of nazis in Ukraine?

They're not nazis

So stop using it as an excuse

Oleh Tyahnybok, leader of Svoboda Party.



Tyahnybok and Victoria Nuland, US Assistant Secretary of State



Tyahnybok with US Senator John McCain.



Neo-Nazi paramilitary rally

Blacklisted News, March 2 2014 - THE U.S. HAS INSTALLED A NEO-NAZI GOVERNMENT IN UKRAINE

Yup, no neo-Nazis. No American involvement. Nothing to see here.

If the US was going to send in covert merceneries they would not be speaking english. In particular since mercs from Slavic countries are available in large numbers. This story has no logic to it.

MrSpad
If the US was going to send in covert merceneries they would not be speaking english. In particular since mercs from Slavic countries are available in large numbers. This story has no logic to it.

RT, March 9 2014 - ‘Blackwater’ footage: Who are the mercenaries in Ukraine?


Same stuff was happening a month ago in Donetsk.

It's not so much about clandestine war, but more about dodging certain rules of engagement by sending soldiers who aren't official working for the American state. I've already shown the evidence that elements of the US government were involved in the junta, now they are protecting their investments.

All i have to add to this is, to all of you Russia/Putin hating types. I'm waiting, where's the Russian invasion? You don't keep troops on the border that long without doing something to you? It's been weeks now. Weeks you people have been spewing the 'impending Russian invasion.' People have already been killed in the protests in Kharkov and Dontesk. Yet i dont see the Russian tanks rolling over the border? IT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED ALREADY. Get over it, move on, you do not get your fantasy WWIII with Russian right now.

For the record, I do not agree with what Putin/Russia did in the Crimea and I certainly do not agree with these Russian supporters taking up arms and seizing government buildings. It is illegal and the wrong way to do things without a doubt, that being said, is that not exactly what happened in Kiev?

Have you people already forgotten how Kiev was taken??? We all sat here watching the main Ukraine thread we all saw the pictures of the protesters with guns...That is okay with you, yet when the exact same thing happens elsewhere according to you it is paid Russian protesters and spetznaz. You may even be right! But do you honestly believe the west did not have it's own mercenaries and undercover people amongst the protesters in Kiev??? Give me a friggn' break. The US/West/John****in McCain all started this first.

Funny how the protests in Kiev were going on for months and moths before suddenly getting out of control violent as soon as the West and their people get involved.....IT is a two way street folks. The bigger move right now is for either the US or Russia to admit at this point they have both screwed up and one of them just needs to stop the escalation.

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Kievian Nazi protestors on rampage...........very firm hand needed here before they go out of control.

voiceofrussia.com...

reply to post by bjarneorn

bjarneorn
We, don't like the Roman empire ... never have, never will. We don't care, wether they speak italian, latin, russian, german or english ... WE WILL make the Roman empire extinct.

What are you talking about? Could you elaborate on that please?
As far as I know the roman empire fell in 1453 at the latest...

You had some good points... but with such rhetoric you're undermining your credibility.
If you're sure you know what the stakes are, watch what you're saying.

reply to post by strawburry


Possibly, Russia has a lot to offer.

reply to post by TechniXcality


Lets send in Sen John McCain to offer the protesters more cookies or better lets start mutual destruction. Since you want the western imperialists to do more, speaking of which hows Libya doing? thats right they are in a chaotic state.

reply to post by MrSpad


You might as well blame the Serbs next for whats happening in Ukraine,Syria.

Danbones

TritonTaranis
And pitin isn't paying his terrorists in Eastern Ukraine ?

For every action there is an equally and opposite reaction

Let's be honest the activities of pro Russia activists I'm the East are that of brutal armed take overs and should not be tolerated

one wonders why you post your comment as a rhetorical question...?
but not with something substantial we can believe in

we do know the us is constantly causing sectarian violence through out the world through use of private mercenary contractors
talibans, alCIAduh!, blackwater /Xe...etc..often dressed as locals to incite sectarian violence
then you have the IDF and the nazis working together which is really a hoot
"brothers" the IDF zionist said about the nazis in Haaretz news paper

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So you chastise someone for saying something outrageous without proof but then you post something outrageous without proof?

Vovin

MrSpad
If the US was going to send in covert merceneries they would not be speaking english. In particular since mercs from Slavic countries are available in large numbers. This story has no logic to it.

RT, March 9 2014 - ‘Blackwater’ footage: Who are the mercenaries in Ukraine?


Same stuff was happening a month ago in Donetsk.

It's not so much about clandestine war, but more about dodging certain rules of engagement by sending soldiers who aren't official working for the American state. I've already shown the evidence that elements of the US government were involved in the junta, now they are protecting their investments.

What evidence? A few crappy videos that tell us nothing? How about the fact the US was completely unprepared for what happened in Ukraine and if it had any clue what was coming would have had a plan in place to not only deal with it but, benefit from it. These silly ideas that nothing happens in the world unless the US is secrety behind get real old. Their would be no crisis in Crimea because NATO or UN peace keepers would have been rushed in and Ukraine quickly placed in NATO and the EU and the world would be none the wiser. Instead we the West slowly trying catch up with events. So if the US was going to mess about in Ukraine it would do so in way the benefits it. As is, it is nothing more than a mess the West has to try and contain and clean up at the worst possible time.