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gariac
reply to post by trig_grl
"Endangered tortoises" is merely the government cover story for confiscating land to turn it over to fracking companies for millions of dollars in energy leases.
The government doesn't have to confiscate the land. Why? Because they already own it.
That was good for a chuckle. A website with writing that stupid should stick to peddling pills.
eLPresidente
gariac
reply to post by trig_grl
"Endangered tortoises" is merely the government cover story for confiscating land to turn it over to fracking companies for millions of dollars in energy leases.
The government doesn't have to confiscate the land. Why? Because they already own it.
That was good for a chuckle. A website with writing that stupid should stick to peddling pills.
There is actually a long string of events that show the government using deception and other methods to get people off land. You can't just kick people out, there has to be some form of acceptance.
govmule
reply to post by gariac
The issue here is not if the man is doing something illegal, its how the government is reacting with a show of force and violence, how they are spending tax payer money to round up the cattle, establishing a "First Amendment Zone",and, lets not forget what they really want the land for. I don't like free range cattle on public land because I hunt in the mountains and they disturb the wild animals as well as hunters, but, that's the way its been with ranchers before these places were even a state so I just deal with it out of for respect for the ranchers and their livelihood. I cant believe how some people think the way the government is handling this is correct??? THE GOVERNMENT IS OUT OF CONTROL....PERIOD!
Snsoc
PS- I wonder if this guy will get droned. Are Obama's balls that big?
rockflier
Snsoc
PS- I wonder if this guy will get droned. Are Obama's balls that big?
Let Holder take care of it. He could care less about legal or Constitutional. Today he played the race card regarding the confrontation with the Congressman this week.
Snsoc
Oh, I have no doubt that Holder will be the shot-caller, just like Reno was for Clinton. Obama wants to be able to keep his hands "clean." But it will still be Obama's legacy if this thing goes all Ruby Ridge on us.
gariac
govmule
reply to post by gariac
How many years do you want to give this fool. It isn't like he hadn't been warned.
I don't hunt. However, I don't try to drive hunters off of public land. In fact, they ask me where I spotted pronghorn recently and I tell them exactly where I saw them. I've had a little trouble with dove hunters, but eventually got them to agree this is OUR land, not THEIR land. Sometimes the ranchers act up like I am on their land, but I have BLM maps with me. These locals think I'm stupid. Too bad for them I'm not.
This is a shared resource. Some clown that thinks he is above the law will be taken down one way or the other.
Note in the pecking order, it goes feds, state, then local. We fought the civil war over this. The Yankees won.
That wanker can complain that Sheriff Gillespie isn't doing his job, but the sheriff knows the law. Look at that fool in Arizona (Arpio) that has cost the county millions because he thinks he is above the feds.
I believe you have it all wrong. The pecking order is the Constitution, we the people, then the government. Until you realize that the federal government is out of control it is hopeless for us to continue as a viable free society nation. The fact is, the government has tried to run off this "wanker" (which is a british term?), not because of a tortoise (in which the BLM has killed thousands of), but because they want full control of the land as a government asset for generating income to corporate interests. They have tried to buy his personal land and he has refused, this is how they get revenge. He is the last rancher left out of 50, why is that? Did they all refuse to pay grazing fees?
And, what does Arpaio have to do with this other than he is trying to protect America from crap like this? Maybe you work for the fed's????
gariac
reply to post by trig_grl
"Endangered tortoises" is merely the government cover story for confiscating land to turn it over to fracking companies for millions of dollars in energy leases.
The government doesn't have to confiscate the land. Why? Because they already own it.
That was good for a chuckle. A website with writing that stupid should stick to peddling pills.
aLLeKs
Everytime I see something like this, I ask myself why you Americans still believe that you are the land of the free....
Everytime I look at the news, I think to myself: "USA? Land of the free? Freedom looks different."
govmule
Freedom will win, hopefully without bloodshed.
rockflier
reply to post by Olivine
And armed protesters continue to arrive.
Armed protesters continue to arrive.