Climate Change Already Impacting ‘All Continents’ According To New International Report

Even more scientists agree that climate change is a real problem. Scientists around the world are reaching consensus.

The next big report from an ongoing international effort to nail down the science of climate change will be released on Monday. According to the Guardian, the report’s language concludes that climate change has already “caused impacts on natural and human systems on all continents and across the oceans.” An early draft was actually leaked in November. The biggest danger it sees is apparently coastal flooding driven by sea level rise — which could shave 10 percent off global economic production by the end of this century, according to previous research. Climate change also threatens widespread damage to marine life and fish populations worldwide, as both warming seas and ocean acidification throw off ecosystems’ natural balances.

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Just another foolish document produced by the IPCC with lots of doom porn ...Anyone believing this crap care to answer me this one question ...When did AGW start ?...Peace

Skymon612
Scientists around the world are reaching consensus.

Consensus means absolutely nothing in science, proof is the only thing that matters. Consensus does mean a lot in politics however.

It should read.... IMO....

The HOAX that we are calling Climate Change and the trumped up media supporting it have been able to

fly their B.S. Globally.

"We think and act based on our Good intentions........ not actually SCIENCE!!!!"


Please remember folks....

"General Consenus" is NOT SCIENCE or EVIDENCE!

I have had that damn 'polar vortex' swinging down into Pennsylvania wreaking havoc on my vertebrae on three separate occasions this year. We just got 3 inches of snow and ice, tomorrow will be 58 degrees. It's not normal.

Many of the natural disasters taking place are on a scale I've personally never witnessed or rarely read about. You can see the changes. I won't sit and argue that industrialization isn't playing a role in it, I see what's happening to the oceans, our land and our forests but I'd wager this change is more cyclic and less man made driven.

Either way, something's got to give.

Goteborg

Skymon612
Scientists around the world are reaching consensus.

Consensus means absolutely nothing in science, proof is the only thing that matters. Consensus does mean a lot in politics however.

There is no proof that gravity exists. Scientists are still trying to find the force carrier and reconcile the four forces.

However, I'm sure you will agree, that we know there is something that we call gravity that definitely exists !! Just a consensus!!!!!

FYI , there is science in Climate research. It's about looking into the past and making correlations. About creating models and testing them and seeing how close the fit is etc etc. BUt I'm sure you will ignore all that science or dismiss it as a "conspiracy" especially if the BBC report it !

My question is "How much will this cost us?"

That's the bottom line, isn't it?

Scare enough people and they will gladly pay more in taxes.

Scare people and we get the Patriot Act.
Scare people and we get the TSA.
Scare people and we get NSA spying.
Scare people and we have drones.

Now it's scare people and we pay more in taxes to combat Global-Climate-Weather-Change-Cooling-Warming-Raining-Dryness-Humidity-Cloudiness.

reply to post by yorkshirelad


If the computer models they built to predict the future for us had any value and could at least get it close we might think they had merit .The thing is ,is that throwing bones would have the same predictable value ....There are some that think throwing bones is science too but like gravity they still dont know what it is that makes it work ..peace

if sea levels rise by 10 foot, i will live in a seafront property! That's why i keep an open fire, ;-)

yorkshirelad

Goteborg

Skymon612
Scientists around the world are reaching consensus.

Consensus means absolutely nothing in science, proof is the only thing that matters. Consensus does mean a lot in politics however.

There is no proof that gravity exists. Scientists are still trying to find the force carrier and reconcile the four forces.

However, I'm sure you will agree, that we know there is something that we call gravity that definitely exists !! Just a consensus!!!!!

FYI , there is science in Climate research. It's about looking into the past and making correlations. About creating models and testing them and seeing how close the fit is etc etc. BUt I'm sure you will ignore all that science or dismiss it as a "conspiracy" especially if the BBC report it !

The difference between gravity and climate "science" is that the effects of gravity are a known quantity. Drop an object and you know how it will accelerate, you know what speed it will reach, anyone can reproduce the experiment with the same results; there is no "consensus" on the issue, everyone knows and can prove what will happen when you drop an object.

I never said that there aren't real climate scientists, I just don't consider what the IPCC and the activists who rely on their reports is doing to be science and I think their political efforts and scare-mongering are hurting the effort to understand how our planet works, not helping. I question their motives.

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well, i think for the 4th consecutive year rainfall has fallen where i am.

yesterday we had 5mm of rain!
for all of march.. we had 7.6mm > the average is 45.8mm!
We just went something like 100days without a single drop of rain > a new record!
we broke the hottest day on record temperature too
2 years in a row we didn't even come close to achieving our annual rainfall, and this year we're already 100days without a drop!

its getting hotter too, last year we had the longest heatwave in 70yrs!

Australia started 2013 with a record-breaking heatwave that lasted more than two weeks across many parts of the country. Temperatures were regularly above 48°C, with the highest recorded maximum of 49.6°C at Moomba in South Australia.

your a fool if you do not think the climate is changing, for the worse! It might not be sudden and fatal EVERYWHERE.. but it is changing. I've noticed the difference.. perhaps you should remove your head from your a$$ and pay attention to how YOUR weather has changed in the last 3-4yrs!

beezzer
My question is "How much will this cost us?"

That's the bottom line, isn't it?

Scare enough people and they will gladly pay more in taxes.

Scare people and we get the Patriot Act.
Scare people and we get the TSA.
Scare people and we get NSA spying.
Scare people and we have drones.

Now it's scare people and we pay more in taxes to combat Global-Climate-Weather-Change-Cooling-Warming-Raining-Dryness-Humidity-Cloudiness.

Good post. I'll go further and say that it's not just tax money they're after. What is always the suggested solution to "combat climate change?" Reduction in the use of fossil fuels, without an adequate substitute in place I might add. What happens to the population of a species when you limit access to a resource that the population needs in order to survive and thrive?

For all of their altruistic talk about the health of the planet and of climate change, in my opinion what they're really talking about is population control and they have been dishonest about it from the very beginning.

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Well you see as far as records go you have to take that into count .When were the records started ? I see that it's common to go 100 days without rain so if it goes 101 it's a new record . The 101 is only a number and I will predict without a computer that the next record will be 102 ....We have deserts today that were lush forests in the past which says that rainfall changes .Eco systems come into being and move on to be something else .Nothing remains the same ..When man goes out to settle land he has never settled before he may find that the good weather he finds when he gets there is not the normal for that place . Being man and having the ability to pull up camp and move is something we do and are very good at adapting ....I know I am not a fool because where I live it's what I have lived with for 60 years .It have varied in the past and I think it will vary in the future .

The last 3 / 4 years have been normal where I live .This winter has been cold and long but I can remember a similar winter when I was a kid growing up ..Ah the good old days are back ..yuck ..I wish it was warming and I want it to ..There would be nothing better than growing bananas where I live but she is going to have to change a big bunch before that ,but I would embrace it ,not fear it ....peace ps . If you cant take the heat in the kitchen then get out .There are plenty of places that are wetter colder darker and windier if you so choose ...

it effects no one on ATS, ergo, it's not happening....I love science.
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Agit8dChop
your a fool if you do not think the climate is changing, for the worse! It might not be sudden and fatal EVERYWHERE.. but it is changing. I've noticed the difference.. perhaps you should remove your head from your a$$ and pay attention to how YOUR weather has changed in the last 3-4yrs!

Yep. Changing indeed.


What happened back in 1940? It sure got hot for a year back then. And in the early 70's too. If it happened back then, why does it have to be AGW causing it now? Couldn't it be the same factors that we didn't understand then?

I sure don't know the answer, but it doesn't appear the IPCC does either.

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Hmmm,...... No. Global warming is pretty much a non issue these days. The money for it is already drying up.But hopefully these pseudo scientists will latch onto real environmental concerns and make them their cause. probably not, real environmental issues would cost money and the chemical companies would never let the government cost them that.

I find it always odd that ATS is against the whole climate change as a whole.

I have a degree in Geography....Ive looked at tons of data....the climate is changing. There is nothing to argue...it is changing guys.

If you want to argue who is changing it...well ya....you could do that and I dont know the answer. I think there is evidence to show that men/women can change the climate and there is definitely tons of evidence that Earth will change the climate herself.
I mean..the Earth heated up from the last ice age without much help from humans...so we know it can change on its own. There is no argument there. But I do think its not only important to see how humans affect the Earth, and how will we fix what theoretical problems it may cause. This is not a stupid idea to try to be prepared for it or to think what could happen. And sure you always have to sort out who is turning this into a political issue more than a scientific one. But the climate is changing.


But to say there is no climate change is so odd to me.

I don't think anyone is saying that there is no climate change, what's being questioned are the conclusions and predictions of the IPCC and the way activists are presenting that material.

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The climate is always changing.

My main issue is that the "solution" always seems to be to pay politicians more and for governments to tax more.

We're here arguing about whether our environment is static or dynamic. Of course climate change is real, and whoever coined the word was genius because all we ever do is argue over whether or not we caused it.

For our children's sake we should all stop using the phrase and replace it with something like... Oh I don't know, global climate collapse maybe. Because all one has to do is look around at the oceans rivers forests grasslands etc. etc. they've all been ravaged to the point where many species from all corners of the globe are teetering on extinction. Whoever thought we wouldn't go the exact same way might want to reevaluate his forecast.