Eat poop to Cure Serious C-Diff?

Can you handle this ATS? lol

I read about this today in a newspaper, it seems the very serious Clostridium difficult or C. diff that causes severe diarrhea, cramping and headaches and even death can cured by putting other peoples poop into your own intestinal tract. Short of a major operation to do this the only other way is to eat poop pills.

Canadian authors of a new study presented Wednesday at IDWeek 2013, a gathering of infectious disease experts, report the first formal success of fecal transplant pills aimed at treating severe recurrent C. diff infections, which U.S. health officials recently named one of the top three antibiotic-related threats in the nation.

Dr. Thomas Louie, an infectious disease expert from the University of Calgary, found a way to package donated stool into vitamin-sized capsules used to repopulate the intestines of C. diff sufferers with beneficial bacteria.

Instead of the typical delivery methods, patients gulped two dozen to three dozen gelatin pills filled with feces that had been spun down to the most beneficial microbes. Of the 27 patients treated, none had a recurrence of C. diff, even though all of them had had at least four bouts of the infection, which can lead to severe disease or death. Louie said he has treated a half-dozen more patients since then, with the same result.

The infections sicken about 250,000 people in the U.S. each year and cause an estimated 14,000 deaths, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Between 500 and 700 people have had fecal transplants worldwide, doctors estimate. Recent studies have shown that the procedures have been racking up success rates of 90 percent or higher.

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No cup needed (sure someone will get the reference). Did i go to far?

The drugs that kill C.Diff kill off much (all?) of your gut flora, some people seem to respond to treatment only to become infected again as soon as treatment is over. As awful as it sounds, replacing your normal flora (gut bacteria) quickly after infection can help from re-infection.

Also C-Diff is a spore former so it is easy to get re-infected anyway.

I still would not want the therapy (but C-Diff is terrible to have so lesser of two evils I suppose).

reply to post by PhoenixOD


Bacteria in and on your body outnumber cells. Your bacterial ecosystem is a critical part of you health. That's why GMO "Round-up ready" food crops are literally gutting us.

As fewer and fewer people maintain whole, healthy gut flora, the poo of the healthy, just like the eggs of healthy females will be in demand.

more information on GMO effects

reply to post by PhoenixOD

Short of a major operation to do this the only other way is to eat poop pills.

Actually it isn't a major operation. A fecal transplant entails your basic enema technique but it is a pain in the ...


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reply to post by PhoenixOD

Guess it is better than dying, but I hope they screen the samples for hepatitis and whatever else can be found in feces. I assume they don't sterilize it so they can avoid destroying beneficial microbes? My father got this ailment after quitting cigs(can happen according to doc) and the doctor prescribed a pharmie that cured the Clostridium, but as the warning label said, he got diabetes as a result! So maybe this is a safer alternative, with less side affects.

Personally I would weigh out all options for sure, but if there is scientific evidence and testimony to support it's effectiveness, and it is relatively safe, then why not?

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I am certain they screen the poop-pills.

The question that bothers me is where do they get the donor poop? If this is something they pay for then hey why not make some extra cash instead of flushing lmao...

reply to post by jaynkeel


My grandfather just had the procedure done, not the pills, and the donor had to be a healthy closely related family member.

pretty sh*tty advice IMO


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and third line too

sorry, delete.

So now people can tell people, "Eat **** and be healthier" ...

reply to post by Phage

A fecal transplant entails your basic enema technique

I know it is a real thing....
But it just sounds wrong.

Everything is recyclable and reusable, apparently.

lol this isnt really eating poop but more like eating poop pills which are isolated by the PILL and not just a turd like the title would suggest, hilarious though.

jaynkeel
The question that bothers me is where do they get the donor poop? If this is something they pay for then hey why not make some extra cash instead of flushing lmao...

From the government. Isn't that where all the sh*t originates??

reply to post by Phage


Maybe not serious in the strict medical definition but id personally call it pretty serious to have that stuff squeezed into my intestines though a tube lol

reply to post by PhoenixOD


No thanks for eating it, enema if needed

It really goes against everything we are taught, you feel me. "Wash your hands after this, don't touch that and if you do scrub your hands good. Would you like some hand sanatizer since you touched the doorknob?" My mom taught me not to overwash, a liitle bacteria is good for your immunw sytem to build up antibodies, this just goes against the grain, full throtle and pedal to the metal, man!

If we can drink our urine to help with dehydration then maybe poop will cure this sickness.

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I spent 8 days in the hospital witha C-diff infection. Sickest I've ever been. I ended up with colitis and diverticulosis thanks to a severe infection. I repopulated with yogurt. I've heard of this treatment, and although it sounds kinda creepy, it works. This infection, as I learned is usually caused by a recent round of antibiotics. However, I wasn't in that group. We eventually figured it out. I had been taking an acid reducer, as I was fighting with acid reflux. Well, when you reduce the acid into the stomach, you also let the bacteria run wild-the balance is upset. It's also highly contagious. Once I was released from the hospital, I had to remain quarantined in my own home for 3 more weeks, until retesting came back that I was clear. And yes the cure is almost as bad. *shudders at the thought* My own doctor makes me keep an emergency prescription of the drugs I need to cure it.

If you suspect this illness, time is of the essence in obtaining emergency medical care. They won't test for it unless you speak up and give them a reason to suspect it. And I honestly PRAY none on this board ever have to deal with it. It's like having the flu x 100.

My 2cents.
SK

Gross as it sounds, this is legit. It's the easiest way to recolonize your gut with healthy flora. You basically need those bacteria in the right balance in order to properly digest. We've become such germophobes that we have an innate disgust at the thought, but not all bugs are bad and we'd die without these.