We are at war with Turkey; Turkish armour has trespassed on Syrian soil

reply to post by MyMindIsMyOwn

I did just read an article (dated March 25,2014) that said Turkey had shot down a Syrian jet. That much seen to accurate at the moment.

Looks to me like the west is trying to open a second front with Russia and Turkey will do anything to be allowed into the EU

Make no mistake that it is we that are pushing for war and that they are playing just as many dirty tricks as Hitler was accused of in the lead up to the second world war and that includes a false flag attack where Poland was supposed to have attacked a German radio station.

Apparently yesterday Syria lobbed a surface to Surface missile into Turkey?

www.turnerradionetwork.com...

Tuesday, 25 March 2014 19:02

March 25, 2014 -- (TRN) -- In a dramatic and unanticipated change in the civil war situation inside Syria, neighboring Turkey has sent tanks into the Kasaba region of Syria and begun attacking Syrian Army positions. In retaliation, Syria has fired a surface-to-surface missile into Harem, Turkey, where it landed in a residential neighborhood. The explosion reportedly killed numerous Turks and injured dozens more. Photo of missile hit below.
Turkish military tanks have targeted Syrian army bases in the Kasab border town, where the Syrian army has been battling numerous militant groups to secure the border.

TheWetCoast
reply to post by MyMindIsMyOwn

 

I did just read an article (dated March 25,2014) that said Turkey had shot down a Syrian jet. That much seen to accurate at the moment.

That is correct. I think that happened late last week or over the weekend. Not sure, but you are correct that was reported and confirmed by both Syria and Turkey. However, the OP's article did not mention that and I was addressing the statement that Russian warships are repositioning in response to Turkey's tanks moving over the Syrian border. That is what I am having trouble finding any other source for.

Erdogan could very much do with a nice, distracting war at the moment.

I'll be keeping an eye on this.

ProfessorT
Well done Recep Erdogan! Turkey has been 'at war' with Syria in overt and covert combat for a while which was all brought on by Syria.

Care to explain this statement? Or did you simply mean Syria brought it on herself by not being a compliant client state of the west?

reply to post by ProfessorT


That is correct.

The Turkish Govt showed restraint when the Syrian missile crossed the border.... I don't blame the Turkish Govt at all if they choose to make sure that doesn't happen again.

They are a peaceful nation. The Turkish Woman and her 3 children were innocent and a tragic loss.

reply to post by TheWetCoast


That is the title of the article. I'd agree it is too soon to be talking about war as we understand it, bear in mind the person writing the article is not neutral. Although technically I suppose that if Turkey has downed a fighter in Syrian territory, has officers directing terrorist groups in Syrian territory, is cross-border shelling and has tanks in Syrian territory...well, those are all acts of war...

reply to post by MyMindIsMyOwn

Also, I think what Danbones was trying to point out is that Turkey's tanks rolling over the Syrian border is not exactly news, since his sourced article was dated Jan. 2014 and yours March 2014. So there has been a precedent set in recent history for this with no declaration of war, yet. - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Not exactly news? It's plainly an act of war, which many including myself see as a provocation to bait Syria into a larger mess than they are already in.

I'd say that's news. Especially two days after they shoot down a Syrian fighter in Syrian territory.

reply to post by TheWetCoast


The victims are, I hope we can agree, those who have lost homes, family members and often their dignity and lives in the process. A good place to start would be to ask them.



If you spoke arabic, you would be able to view hundreds more youtube videos where the population has their say.

As for the liars, they are quite easy to identify really. They are openly funding the very people they themselves classify as terrorists in the name of "freedom".

Hypocrisy.
FSA terrorists walked into the town of ADRA in syria. And proceeded to slaughter the towns people. There were very few survivors. There is proof that was presented to the UN that proves this as well. The atrocities those people witnessed is beyond excusable. Women and children beheaded before their fathers.
There is even a testimonial of a woman who watched as her son begged to be SHOT and not slaughtered like the rest. They cut off his head and played soccer with it in front of his mother.

Heres your testimonials: Liveleak - Watch at own risk

The west (including turkey) have been funding these atrocities.
Our tax dollars at work.
Turkey allows terrorists to cross its border into Syria unopposed. That is support. FSA are trained in Turkey. link

D377MC
reply to post by TheWetCoast

 

That is the title of the article. I'd agree it is too soon to be talking about war as we understand it, bear in mind the person writing the article is not neutral. Although technically I suppose that if Turkey has downed a fighter in Syrian territory, has officers directing terrorist groups in Syrian territory, is cross-border shelling and has tanks in Syrian territory...well, those are all acts of war...

I don't think you can label the Syrians as being the victims/innocent party. But I wouldn't view Turkey as being blameless either.

reply to post by Thurisaz


I would like to point out that a missile falling in Turkish territory, and killing a woman and her three children, only proves ipso facto that someone fired the missile.

Ask Israel how that works.

reply to post by Thurisaz

They are a peaceful nation. The Turkish Woman and her 3 children were innocent and a tragic loss.

So are the 140,000 Syrians estimated to have died so far, not to mention the displaced.

D377MC
Not exactly news? It's plainly an act of war, which many including myself see as a provocation to bait Syria into a larger mess than they are already in.

I'd say that's news. Especially two days after they shoot down a Syrian fighter in Syrian territory.

Please do not engage in a game of semantics with me. I happen to agree, what I was pointing out, and made quite clear, is that Turkey sending tanks across the border with Syria has been done in the past without this hoopla in the media about declarations of war. I also happen to think that Syria is not blameless in this mess either.

Don't go looking for an arguement where there is none to begin with please. I'll ask again, because I still can find no other source for Russia positioning warships for a response to this, have you any other sources for this info?

reply to post by Thurisaz


Turkey a peaceful nation? You mean like the US?
No arguing the woman and children were innocent, as long as they were not fabricated to further the agenda, as has been discovered other times...

reply to post by TheWetCoast


I think you can. Their country is in ruins, 140,000 dead, mass-exodus of refugees... What else do you need to gain victim status in your books?

reply to post by D377MC
Hopefully Syria is still too busy bombing it's own cities into the ground to want to go to war with Turkey. A terrible and horrific situation for sure but maybe the lesser of two evils.

reply to post by D377MC


yeah Assad regime is terrible.

however, you are the OP of this thread and the issue is Turkey... and if you had actually read my replies that were on topic, you would see that I agreed with you.

but now your firing off about Syrian innocents.