Tons of dead fish in Indonesia

Dead fish float on the water in Maninjau lake, West Sumatra province in Indonesia on Tuesday. The massive death of the fish population is apparently caused by a sudden change in weather conditions, according to fishery officials. I think it's more to it than just the weather changing. What say you, ATS?

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reply to post by lostbook


Perhaps bad weather crossed with a methane gas leak or some sort of volcanic gas?

Those look like pretty hardy fish, and it is hard to imagine what kind of weather would do that unless the water oxygen level dropped, which can happen with cold weather or hot weather in lakes and ponds where there is not much of a current.

So that could be it as well, but I will go with the volcanic gas theory just cause it sounds so much more unlikely yet morbidly fascinating...lol

lostbook
...What say you, ATS?...

I say, THAT'S A HELLUVA LOT OF DEAD FISH.

Aside from that, nothing, really. Don't know that anybody can do anything but speculate.

It could be the volcano that erupted a couple months ago close to indonesia . Ill see if i can find its location.

reply to post by Darkblade71

and it is hard to imagine what kind of weather would do that unless the water oxygen level dropped, which can happen with cold weather or hot weather in lakes

Oxygen levels dropping can also be caused by runoff of nitrates from chemical fertilizers that promote algae growth which deprives the water of oxygen.

Also wonder what a geiger counter would read?

Another mysterious never solved mass die off.

Aww, so what… whats up with that plane?

reply to post by lostbook


Change in weather...

We get bouts of Red Tide here on the Gulf Coast of Florida. Red Tide is caused by a form of algae that can cause the water to turn red in severe outbreaks. The fish die off en masse due to these blooms...some outbreaks are worse than others.

But I'm sure they ruled the algae scenario out if they're saying the weather was the cause.

ETA: plus this is fresh water so...

Indonesia....ground zero for an explosive-gas-induced world of fire. 22 ash-spewing volcanoes...endless torrential rains...numerous earthquakes...landslides and land subsidence....fires and explosions...extreme weather events producing rare tropical tornadoes and day-after-day of mass animal die-offs!

I'm sure with all this volcanic and seismic activity in Indonesia, there is an extremely high amount of methane and hydrogen sulfide gases releasing from land fissures and the volcanoes themselves.

If you froze your ass off in North America this year or got wind-battered in the UK, you can thank Indonesia. The UK Meteorological Office came out with a report in mid-February with some details on what they believed was the reason they were experiencing some of the most-harsh weather they had ever seen, which included torrential rains and floods, hurricane-force winds, 30 to 60 foot waves splashing the coastline and intense storms. The report said that torrential rains in Indonesia and the western tropical Pacific region were behind their winter of 2013-14 weather. The warmer temperatures in the Indonesian region caused massive amounts of rain which caught up the jet stream throwing it out of whack. The caused the jet stream to move much higher north in the Pacific well over Alaska bringing extremely warm temperatures there, which then swept down harsh polar conditions over North America as the jet stream plunged south. As the jet stream moved out over the North Atlantic it surged well north again and pulled much warmer than usual temperatures up over Greenland, which in turn then pounded the United Kingdom with extreme weather events.

The UK experienced a 50% higher-than-usual wet December and January of 2013-14. The winter before, they experienced several major snow events as well. Also, earlier in the year 2013, a rare occurrence happened over Greenland called the Greenland Block where a large pocket of warm air came up from the south in the Atlantic and parked itself over the ice-covered country for months, causing a lot of land ice melt. Greenland is still suffering warmer-than-usual temperatures causing a dangerously fast-paced ice melt which is all just part of this chain reaction of runaway global warming.

The UK Meteorological Office report states that the reason the jet stream has been deflected so far north is because of the constant heavy rains caused by the warmer temperatures of Indonesia. The rains pull storms in from the Pacific which deflects the jet stream. Consider that this is also the region that was home to the most powerful hurricane that ever made landfill (since records have been kept) when Super Typhoon Haiyan blasted into the Philippines in late 2013 with sustained winds over 200 mph.

The multitude of volcano and earthquake headlines dominated Indonesia as they have raged on for the past couple of years and they continue to increase in intensity and frequency. But, they're not the only headlines making this island nation a truly frightening place to live. Massive rain amounts due to the warmer temperatures that continue to warm from the increasing volcanoes has resulted in a wave of killer landslides and mudslides. Despite the fact that Indonesia regularly suffers from floods due to the high amounts of rain during the wet season, the past couple of years reports much more flooding. 2013 was one of the worst flooding years and the worst in five years and 2014 was expected to continue to worsen as more and more torrential rain was predicted.

One other thing to note about Indonesia is that the nation ranks among the top regions of the world to undergo the most mass animal die-offs. It’s becoming very common for thousands of fish to die-off in the rivers of Indonesia. There were four mass fish die-offs in rivers of this nation over a two week period on the dates of Feb. 11, Feb. 2, Jan. 29, Jan. 27. Bird flu was also responsible for two massive die-offs of ducks during that two week period.

Another weather phenomenon that swept over the island nation in 2012 was tornadoes. Although they aren’t unheard of in this country, they are rare and barely ever kill people. Despite the lush tropical nature of the climate here and frequent powerful thunderstorms, tornadoes rarely develop. In 2012 there was a rash of them and they are becoming part of the norm in this country.

Aah yes...Indonesia...ground zero for hell on earth.

I'd go with methane gas or another volcanic gas. Weather, not likely, just a smoke screen to keep from panicking the local population. Sumatra just had one of the volcano's popped its cork not long ago and another one that seems to be continuous. It looks more like it's volcano related than anything else.

Just my $.02

Every year we hear of mas deaths of fish or birds. Its not all that uncommon.

Did they check for a 777 in the lake? Pretty slim chance, for sure.

PhoenixOD
Every year we hear of mas deaths of fish or birds. Its not all that uncommon.

In 2011 there were 145 known die-offs in the world = 0.4 per day

In 2012 there were 465 known die-offs in the world = 1.27 per day

In 2013 there were 798 known die-offs in the world = 2.18 per day

So far in 2014 there have been 164 known die-offs in the world = 2.1 per day

This is a good sign for now, the die-off increase over the past few years has leveled off for now.

Mass Animal die-offs in 2011

Mass Animal die-offs in 2012

Mass Animal die-offs in 2013

Mass Animal die-offs in 2014