Beijing-bound MAS plane carrying 239 people missing as of 20 mins ago.

reply to post by Zaphod58


Thanks pal!!!

Had a feeling this was the case, in the sense that they'd literally have to blow it out of the sky rather than just take off an engine or wing with a missile!!!

Peace Zaphod!!!

Post by Murgatroid

No WAY a low power signal can travel 200km...
Even an extremely high power sonar signal (200dB+) has a hard time going long distances except under very rare convergence zone conditions.
Former Navy sonar tech BTW...

and whale sounds or iceflow noises dont carry for this distance? I thought they carried for a long way in the oceans.

Post by Zaphod58

When a plane is hit by a missile they tend to remain intact, unless it hits something like a loaded weapons bay, or is a Golden BB shot.
But to cover an area that big they would have had to be a lot higher.

I would expect a jet targeted at 35-39,000 feet would explode due to the fuel carried or maybe there is not enough oxygen up there for the fuel to burn and explode like that? Is there? If it did explode at that height, what kind of area would the debris scatter on the ocean? Bearing in mind some of the pieces would naturally be flat and go like a sail in the wind as they are dropping.

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Fuel doesn't explode, the vapor in empty tanks does. An IR missile is most likely to go for the aft fuselage if the APU is running, or the engines. Neither of those would normally cause a catastrophic explosion unless it was a lucky shot.

Some of the lighter debris might be as far as 40-50 miles probably, but the majority of the debris would tend to fall fairly straight down, so probably most of it would be within a relatively small area (10-11 miles is my total guess).

sy.gunson

Nochzwei
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omg 354 pages and many are still engrossed in this mock search hype.

So let me guess, you're hiding it in your garage shed?

Mah! I've hidden it in my box of tricks.

And now we have 4

Four signals detected

Ships searching the southern Indian Ocean for the missing Malaysia Airlines plane have now detected four separate underwater signals.
More ships and planes from at least eight different nations have been diverted to the area to investigate whether they could have come from the plane's "black box" locator.
CNN is reporting the British Defence Ministry has confirmed the fourth signal.

AngryCymraeg

sy.gunson

Nochzwei
reply to post by Zaphod58

 

omg 354 pages and many are still engrossed in this mock search hype.

So let me guess, you're hiding it in your garage shed?

Don't be silly! It's in his secret underground base!

Nochzwei, why do you call it a mock search?

Because imo the Inmarsat scenario just does not add up.

reply to post by auroraaus


So either there is other equipment pinging there, or the plane had a couple spare recorders just in case.

Zaphod58
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So either there is other equipment pinging there, or the plane had a couple spare recorders just in case.

Or it can be complete propaganda. That's more likely what it is. Remember who CNN are and the character of their expert aviation analysts. Is the cockpit voice recorder and the flight data recorder connected in one unit? Can they separate?

reply to post by Mikeultra


They are completely separate units.

Yes, it's just propaganda. China and Australia are in on it too.

The recorders are NOT the only things in the world that broadcast on that frequency.

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If you are referring to Quests drug and sexual preferences and his journalistic style, I think that's a weak argument.

George Michael was found in similar circumstances and he's still a great musician/performer

(anyone disagree with me on that, I throw a mangosteen in your general direction)

reply to post by auroraaus


Do you remember Rick Sanchez and why he was fired from CNN? He spoke the truth and I think what he said pales in comparison to what Quest did. He was arrested for possession of meth! It appears rehab didn't cure him of that habit if you can stand looking at him you can tell. I didn't say anything about his preferences, you did. CNN kept him despite his arrest and what was in that report. They have their standards I guess. So I'm judging CNN by considering the source of the information. I choose not to believe a meth-head. That aviation expert has absolutely no credentials related to aviation. He's a loud obnoxious blowhard!

I thought Quest might be Piers Morgan's brother.

reply to post by auroraaus


I haven't found any confirmation yet but the article makes it sound like this is yet another separate location. If that is the case that would mean 4 signals in 3 different areas.

reply to post by OatDelphi


Which is why I have been saying it has to be more than just the recorders, if it's the recorders at all.

auroraaus
And now we have 4

Four signals detected

Ships searching the southern Indian Ocean for the missing Malaysia Airlines plane have now detected four separate underwater signals.
More ships and planes from at least eight different nations have been diverted to the area to investigate whether they could have come from the plane's "black box" locator.
CNN is reporting the British Defence Ministry has confirmed the fourth signal.

TY Aurora.....been waiting for you to pop in. I figured you might have better, quicker info., much appreciate your updates!! Sounds promising, hope by the time I wake up tomorrow, they'll have found SOMETHING? Keep the updates coming, as it's almost midnight on the east coast of the U.S, I will come here 1st thing to see if anything was found during the evening.

reply to post by Zaphod58


I recall reading an article yesterday or the day before with an 'expert' saying (when there was only two "ping" locations) that it's probably because the craft broke up underwater and there would be two different locations. But even if that was the case, if the aircraft did break up, wouldn't there be a lot of debris coming to the surface??

reply to post by j.r.c.b.


Cheers for that!

I have no access to quicker information than anyone else here though.

reply to post by auroraaus


There should have been all kinds of debris. And the distance between the first two was so far there was no way they both were from a recorder.

I suggest that people look at the Sarah Hamil Bajc Facebook page. I do not have Facebook and I can't view the page. However I did view the page via a video that was made about it and I have screen captures of oddities about it. There's very little posted on it. It says she joined Facebook on 01/19/2008. One post on 04/30/2010, one post on 10/07/2010, one post on 09/10/2012. Four years on Facebook, a total of three posts, no mention or photos of Philip Wood. Suddenly on 03/10/2014 her Facebook page comes to life with endless photos of herself and Philip Wood, blah, blah, blah! I guess she never thought of posting them before he mysteriously disappeared? What a liar she is. Tell me that is normal Facebook activity! Tell me I'm being mean to poor Sarah. She's a freaking con artist liar! She also changed her profile photo on 03/10/2014!

Better watch this video before Youtube takes it down. Don't pay attention too much to the photo-shop part in the beginning, it's the Facebook dates that are important.