Beijing-bound MAS plane carrying 239 people missing as of 20 mins ago.

Is this the latest?

Malaysia jet sent 'pings' after going missing, sources say

(Reuters) - Satellites picked up faint electronic pulses from Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 after it went missing on Saturday, but the signals gave no information about where the stray jet was heading and little else about its fate, two sources close to the investigation said on Thursday.

But the "pings" indicated that the aircraft's maintenance troubleshooting systems were switched on and ready to communicate with satellites, showing the aircraft, with 239 people on board, was at least capable of communicating after the jet lost touch with Malaysian air traffic controllers.

A quote from a news source

Obama administration officials later said the new information was that the plane's engines remained running for approximately four hours after it vanished from radar early on Saturday en route from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, to Beijing.

Do people consider Washington a source of reliable information? When we find the plane will it also lead the world to hideout of the weapons of mass destruction?

reply to post by ~Lucidity


But it's based on what the WSj said and retracted, so still coming from unverified sources.

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No it's baffling to say the least!

I don't know what he was trying to point out with such a comparison to be honest!!!

I heard it was a mistranslation, but even the recovery story added confusion!


Peace Xavi!

reply to post by DrHammondStoat


It's from Reuters like 22 minutes ago?

First military says it turned around and was 346 (or whatever) miles off course send search parties to a whole diff ocean, then pics from satellites (mistaken for the plane) send them back, then pings and now they somehow know the engines ran for hours.

This has to be the biggest cluster flock ever. I swear I'm beginning to strongly lean toward the cloaking device gone awry or alien theory, or both.

And why did they evacuate the ISS?

CNN reporting too.
US thinks its a distinct possibility that this plane continued flying for several more hours, suggesting too that it may not have crashed but instead may have landed somewhere...I can't begin to imagine those implications...

Malaysian officials are denying this of course- so who are we to believe here?

This is a drama story that keeps on giving...

CharlieSpeirs
reply to post by Xavierm

 

No it's baffling to say the least!

I don't know what he was trying to point out with such a comparison to be honest!!!

I heard it was a mistranslation, but even the recovery story added confusion!


Peace Xavi!

I think an official was asked if one of the guys with the stolen passport 'looked Italian'? He replied that Balotelli is Italian, as in an Itallian could look like any race . This got misreported as him saying the stolen passport people were black and looked like Balotelli! .

reply to post by ~Lucidity


Yes it's from 22mins ago but what is their source for the info?

The WSJ correction earlier today outlined the same story.

reply to post by PhotonEffect

Do people consider Washington a source of reliable information? When we find the plane will it also lead the world to hideout of the weapons of mass destruction?

Flip a coin or choose an answer which makes you feel most comfortable. In the absence of an reliable source of data im gonna say it went missing at exactly its last radar plot. Taken by giant Ufo.

reply to post by DrHammondStoat

Okay, thank you. I just got home from work so catching up.

This is seriously messed up.

reply to post by DrHammondStoat


Thank you pal!

I was wondering to be honest, but being quite busy keeping up with the thread kinda prevents going back to google for further research!!!

Peace Dr!

I think all the news writers are reading the internet and throwing stuff out as known truth. We seem to have very little that is quoting the names of actual, reliable source. Sentences using 'possibly, speculated, could be, etc' are about the same as the rest of us can come up with.

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Ahhh there you go, thanks for clearing that up.

reply to post by AthlonSavage

Taken by giant Ufo.

This is as plausible as anything being offered right now. And quote frankly Ive seriously considered it.

Forgive the late reply, first chance to hop on the site.

Arbitrageur
Did you correct yourself in your followup post? As far as I know he never said it, and in your next post you said he said there was "a plane", yes he said it was a plane, but didn't say it was the missing MH370.

In another post I did say they said it was a plane, and not the plane, because that's what the story changed to. One of the local papers had Rodzali Daud quoted as saying the military tracked the plane to a small island in the Straits of Malacca. He commented in a press conference that they were looking at a plane in two parts of the Straits of Malacca. I'll concede that they may not have meant to imply it was MH370, but if he didn't then he never should have mentioned it, especially since moving part of the search to that area strengthens the thought that they saw the plane there. They believed it could have been the plane and are increasingly backing away from that thought, likely because two different civilian planes were in the approximate area at the times listed.

The statement on the airline's site has never changed. I've read them all as they are released and they all still say what they said when they were first posted.

But it has from other officials. I don't think I've criticized the airlines, they have actually been doing a good job.

The media is doing a bad job, but you haven't shown where officials have changed their story, especially not the official statements by the airline.

Ahmad Zahid Hamidi said the guys had Asian features. Hishammuddin Hussein said that was untrue. Sure, different officials, but they should have the same knowledge and it's the story changing. Azharuddin Abdul Rahman said the baggage for the five who didn't board was removed. Later, Khalid Abu Bakar said only one passenger did not board. Finally, one of the statements from the airline was a clarification that there were four people who did not show up to check in and so luggage was never part of the equation.

The media is certainly doing a bad job, no denying that, but varying officials aren't helping by giving out widely contradicting statements.


And in the spirit of contradicting info, does anyone have anything solid on whether or not the engines sent data hours after they lost signal? I've seen unnamed sources say it did and it didn't, while we also have Jay Carney referring to the data as though it's the truth.

~Lucidity
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Okay, thank you. I just got home from work so catching up.

This is seriously messed up.

It's confusing and like some kind of stalemate, someone possibly knows it went on flying but this hasn't been officially confirmed, so it remains that it may also have crashed. I'm going to leave all this mess for a while and no doubt i'll be trying to catch up and make sense of it tomorrow.

OpinionatedB
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Is the first pic the same as the second pic?

What was the wording of those original stories. I saw the original tweet, which everything else supposedly came from, but what was the exact wording of those full articles, I skimmed one but didn't read it as thoroughly as I need to now...

Do you have a screen shot or the original of one of those deleted articles?

They're the same area of China. One is Google Maps and the other Google Earth. I posted both because the topography is more easily understood in Maps, but the Earth pic shows more detail in terms of actual features such as the airport and rail depot, which is really huge. It runs most of the length of the eastern ridge.

I posted a few of the releases of the Nanming claim, earlier, much earlier in the thread. However someone originally posted the link to one. I wanted to get them included in the thread before they were 404d, which some were. Around page 40 - 45 there should be one or two LOL

whatnext21
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With this new Indian Ocean situation, are you still thinking Male and the Maldives? This is a 4 hour 25 min destination from where the plane was last heard from?
Here is an interesting article I just found

How Terrorists Could Exploit GPS Flaws to Hijack Ships and Planes from 08/05/2013

And yes the runway is long enough, a Boeing 777-200 can land in Maldives. Watch for the RR symbol on the engine.

ManiShuck
I'll concede that they may not have meant to imply it was MH370, but if he didn't then he never should have mentioned it, especially since moving part of the search to that area strengthens the thought that they saw the plane there. They believed it could have been the plane and are increasingly backing away from that thought, likely because two different civilian planes were in the approximate area at the times listed.

Why do you say "he never should have mentioned it". Their job is to find the missing plane. Also they never said they "moved" the search there, they said they "expanded" the search to include that area, which should have been a giveaway that they weren't sure it was the missing plane. So you would have him not mention it and not search for what could have been the missing plane in an expanded search area? Is that reasonable?

Ahmad Zahid Hamidi said the guys had Asian features. Hishammuddin Hussein said that was untrue. Sure, different officials, but they should have the same knowledge and it's the story changing.

I've got news for you. People see people differently especially if they are mixed race. This is not a story changing, it's two different people talking.

And in the spirit of contradicting info, does anyone have anything solid on whether or not the engines sent data hours after they lost signal? I've seen unnamed sources say it did and it didn't, while we also have Jay Carney referring to the data as though it's the truth.

I just reposted the link from page 125 explaining that again on page 128, but I'm not gonna repost it on every page, but yeah it's hard to keep up. At least now you know where to look.

Crashed vs Hijacked
Its probably crashed but many factors suggest its been H.
If the plane was detected heading across the Indian ocean
then maybe the destination was Yemen/Somalia.
If H then thats good news for the mortality of the passengers
but there maybe be a bigger price to be paid later.
If it was H to be used as a weapon then the price to pay will be far
greater than 239. What would be the target?
So although sad to say, better it has crashed because H is worse!