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captaintyinknots
Im not going to explain it again, and it is quite worrisome that so many of you defending this dont know the basics of responsible handling of weapons.
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reply to post by captaintyinknots
Please, I'm very informed on firearms saftey and responsibilty.
The barrel is not pointed at anyone (as far as I can tell)
The rifle is not loaded
Fingers off the trigger.
Care to explain to me how is it irresponsible?
kx12x
reply to post by captaintyinknots
Well lets look at the picture, yes it is within arms reach. It's also unloaded and safe. Where is the problem?
captaintyinknots
Bottom line, celebrating irresponsible use of weapons is a BAD thing for the pro gun crowd.
It is not funny. It is not cute.
crazyewok
O and before some red neck dimwitt chimes in and makes asumptions based on my country.
Im all for the right to bare arms
BUT
Guns shouldnt be viewed so flipantly or worshiped.
They should be treated like any other dangrous tool, with respect
And the attitude is that except in hunting guns should NOT be the go too solution for ones problems unless its life or death and theres no other option.
crazyewok
kx12x
reply to post by captaintyinknots
Well lets look at the picture, yes it is within arms reach. It's also unloaded and safe. Where is the problem?
The problem is the message it sends out.
Thats guns are a "cool" and "cute" thing and fippant attitudes towards them are ok.
In reality they should be veiwed in a responsible and serious note.
You wonder why you have so many school shootings?
Its not cause there are too many guns or they are easly avalible.
It because peoples flippant attitudes towards them, like they are a go to solution to all problems.
And again before some dimwitt that cant read chimes in and accuses me of being a gun grabber, i have said nothimg of the sort about banning guns, just reajusting ones attitude.
James1982
The dog pic is classic, and raises a perfectly good comparison.
There are probably millions of picture online of babies sleeping or sitting on big dangerous dogs, cats, or any other animal out there. Where is the outrage?
Where as an unloaded firearm sitting in front of a baby literally has no possible way of hurting it (aside from it falling on the baby, a danger every single object on earth has) a baby who is sitting with a dog or cat is in actual, real, serious danger. However tame a dog or cat is, they are ALL capable of moments of extremely violent outburst, which could tear a poor baby to shreds before their irresponsible parents have a chance to help.
Did that sound a little ridiculous? Good, because it was supposed to. People take baby pictures with pets all the time, we all know it's possible the pet will claw the hell out of the baby, why do we all forget about that and think it's so cute? Yet an unloaded firearm, which actually poses far LESS real danger than a dog or cat, gets so much outrage?
The answer is hypocrites and the easily controlled.
TiedDestructor
Again who has given you authority to proclaim the cause of these problems? Why be so incessant?
crazyewok
kx12x
reply to post by captaintyinknots
Well lets look at the picture, yes it is within arms reach. It's also unloaded and safe. Where is the problem?
The problem is the message it sends out.
Thats guns are a "cool" and "cute" thing and fippant attitudes towards them are ok.
In reality they should be veiwed in a responsible and serious note.
You wonder why you have so many school shootings?
Its not cause there are too many guns or they are easly avalible.
It because peoples flippant attitudes towards them, like they are a go to solution to all problems.
And again before some dimwitt that cant read chimes in and accuses me of being a gun grabber, i have said nothimg of the sort about banning guns, just reajusting ones attitude.
crazyewok
reply to post by TiedDestructor
What hell is that BS freedom coment about.
Yeah fine worship guns if you like, place them on a golden peddlestall and treat them as the go to solution to evey problem.
Just dont whine when your kids get shot up at school.
Or whine when more people join the ban guns brigade.
If you just had kept a responsible mature attitude to guns in the first place im sure the 2nd amendment wouldnt be in the lime light or under queation.
crazyewok
InverseLookingGlass
reply to post by HomerinNC
I guess the baby will get schooled early on the most important words in the US constitution, the sacrosanct 2nd amendment. Maybe some of that other supporting mumbo-jumbo too.
If you have lethal force, with sufficient discharge efficiency, you have true freedom. I could go on, but I'm tearing up.
If the 2nd has been that important why havent a million of you marched on DC with your AR 15 yet?
Washington and patriots took arms as far less tyrany than you have today.
Untill you American grow a spine and stand up to you gov the 2nd is like all your other "rights" just words on a bit of paper your goverment ignores.
uncommitted
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captaintyinknots
Im not going to explain it again, and it is quite worrisome that so many of you defending this dont know the basics of responsible handling of weapons.
kx12x
reply to post by captaintyinknots
Please, I'm very informed on firearms saftey and responsibilty.
The barrel is not pointed at anyone (as far as I can tell)
The rifle is not loaded
Fingers off the trigger.
Care to explain to me how is it irresponsible?
And..... so you don't think it's a rather pathetic picture that aims to show how a baby should be indoctrinated to like guns? If the picture was of a North Korean hugging a nuclear warhead would you think "ah, bless"?
Wow, sometimes the people on here amaze me. If the child was hugging a bible, the Atheists would shout how the baby was being indoctrinated, if it was the Koran you would be turning pale, if it was a sign saying "gays are ok in my book" you would be passed out on your sofa, if the child was holding a picture of Obama you would all be shrieking how it was an evil publicity stunt, but it's a gun, so you are ok with it being shown with such a young child - armed or not (the gun that is) - so it meets your little agenda...... kind of sad isn't it? Get a grip.
crazyewok
kx12x
reply to post by captaintyinknots
Well lets look at the picture, yes it is within arms reach. It's also unloaded and safe. Where is the problem?
The problem is the message it sends out.
Thats guns are a "cool" and "cute" thing and fippant attitudes towards them are ok.
In reality they should be veiwed in a responsible and serious note.
You wonder why you have so many school shootings?
Its not cause there are too many guns or they are easly avalible.
It because peoples flippant attitudes towards them, like they are a go to solution to all problems.
And again before some dimwitt that cant read chimes in and accuses me of being a gun grabber, i have said nothimg of the sort about banning guns, just reajusting ones attitude.
TiedDestructor
crazyewok
reply to post by TiedDestructor
What hell is that BS freedom coment about.
Yeah fine worship guns if you like, place them on a golden peddlestall and treat them as the go to solution to evey problem.
Just dont whine when your kids get shot up at school.
Or whine when more people join the ban guns brigade.
If you just had kept a responsible mature attitude to guns in the first place im sure the 2nd amendment wouldnt be in the lime light or under queation.
Your accusing me of being immature? You my friend are delusional.
To prevent thread drift I concede my aggression.
Plus your avatar keeps me grinning.....
bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by oblvion
If i were a betting man, i would hazard a guess that it was a type 99 Arisaka (something like a 7.7x58mm, if memory serves). Powerful enough to hunt elk with, if you don't mind tracking them a bit.