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Russia declares war on Ukraine. Live updates from inside Ukraine

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posted on Jun, 21 2014 @ 04:59 AM
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As a side note has anyone heard from asen_y2k?



posted on Jun, 21 2014 @ 05:17 AM
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While defenders in here are clearer defending the Junta forces is here a little taste on what your defending.

Svoboda Thugs Silence MP Petro Symonenko inside Ukraine's Parliament




posted on Jun, 21 2014 @ 05:22 AM
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originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: victor7
a reply to: cosmonova

Come winter and Ukraine as a state will collapse. Then we will see how much help the US or EU comes with to the bootpolishing Junta in Kiev.


Where you aware
china has an LNG infrastructure and just dying to get into the European market? In fact the irony is thell be selling Russian gas soon since they had Russia over a barrell and they had to agree to Chinas terms.





china has an LNG infrastructure and just dying to get into the European market?

Cute bunny story did you see that according to the Opposition sources on the social media or CNN by any chance?



posted on Jun, 21 2014 @ 06:09 AM
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Great compilation with undeniable evidence
'9 facts that prove the US is behind Ukraine crisis'.




posted on Jun, 21 2014 @ 06:23 AM
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originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter
While defenders in here are clearer defending the Junta forces is here a little taste on what your defending.

Svoboda Thugs Silence MP Petro Symonenko inside Ukraine's Parliament





a proof of a bright future for Ukraine ahead. The darkness has arrived.
This is what happens when fascists rule the parliament.



posted on Jun, 21 2014 @ 06:42 AM
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Russia has quite the neo Nazi contingent in their government as well.




The LDPR currently control 56 seats in the Duma. Who are the LDPR?

Russian nationalism, Pan-Slavism, Neo–Imperialism, Mixed economy


Who runs that party who also held several high political positions -
Vladimir Zhirinovsky

Zhirinovsky is often viewed as "a showman of Russian politics, blending populist and nationalist rhetoric, anti-Western invective and a brash, confrontational style".[5] According to Reuters, "Although nominally part of the Russian opposition, he is widely seen as a servant of Kremlin policy, used to float radical opinions to test public reaction."[6]


Next up in the Duma - Communism which holds 92 seats in the Duma.

Communism, Marxism–Leninism, Patriotism, Left-wing Nationalism


As has been stated before be careful throwing your rocks in a glass house.



posted on Jun, 21 2014 @ 06:48 AM
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originally posted by: cosmonova

originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter
While defenders in here are clearer defending the Junta forces is here a little taste on what your defending.

Svoboda Thugs Silence MP Petro Symonenko inside Ukraine's Parliament





a proof of a bright future for Ukraine ahead. The darkness has arrived.
This is what happens when fascists rule the parliament.



Are you using Russian math? I am going to assume so since 35 seats are held by the Svoboda. Please explain how 35 members is a majority when there are a total of 449 seats?

Verkhovna Rada


What's funny is the Russian equivalent to Sbvoboda actually has more seats in the Russian Duma, 56, than Sbvoboda holds in Ukraine.

nice try though.



posted on Jun, 21 2014 @ 06:52 AM
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latest Vice News




posted on Jun, 21 2014 @ 07:05 AM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: cosmonova

originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter
While defenders in here are clearer defending the Junta forces is here a little taste on what your defending.

Svoboda Thugs Silence MP Petro Symonenko inside Ukraine's Parliament





a proof of a bright future for Ukraine ahead. The darkness has arrived.
This is what happens when fascists rule the parliament.



Are you using Russian math? I am going to assume so since 35 seats are held by the Svoboda. Please explain how 35 members is a majority when there are a total of 449 seats?

Verkhovna Rada


What's funny is the Russian equivalent to Sbvoboda actually has more seats in the Russian Duma, 56, than Sbvoboda holds in Ukraine.

nice try though.


You do not need math to see that fascist thugs make rules in Ukrainian parliament. Are they minority or majority
is irrelevant. What is relevant is that they make rules who can speak and what can be said, by using violence to suppress a freedom of speech.
If this is happening in parliament it is a scary to even think what is happening outside.



posted on Jun, 21 2014 @ 07:20 AM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
Russia has quite the neo Nazi contingent in their government as well.




The LDPR currently control 56 seats in the Duma. Who are the LDPR?

Russian nationalism, Pan-Slavism, Neo–Imperialism, Mixed economy


Who runs that party who also held several high political positions -
Vladimir Zhirinovsky

Zhirinovsky is often viewed as "a showman of Russian politics, blending populist and nationalist rhetoric, anti-Western invective and a brash, confrontational style".[5] According to Reuters, "Although nominally part of the Russian opposition, he is widely seen as a servant of Kremlin policy, used to float radical opinions to test public reaction."[6]


Next up in the Duma - Communism which holds 92 seats in the Duma.

Communism, Marxism–Leninism, Patriotism, Left-wing Nationalism


As has been stated before be careful throwing your rocks in a glass house.


By the way why are you posting what is going on in Russian parliament in a thread about events in Ukraine?



posted on Jun, 21 2014 @ 07:56 AM
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originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: victor7
a reply to: cosmonova

Come winter and Ukraine as a state will collapse. Then we will see how much help the US or EU comes with to the bootpolishing Junta in Kiev.


Where you aware
china has an LNG infrastructure and just dying to get into the European market? In fact the irony is thell be selling Russian gas soon since they had Russia over a barrell and they had to agree to Chinas terms.





china has an LNG infrastructure and just dying to get into the European market?

Cute bunny story did you see that according to the Opposition sources on the social media or CNN by any chance?


If you got your information from some place other than Putin propaganda channels you would know China has extensive LNG facilities and invested heavily in tankers. In fact just signed a 20 billion dollar deal with BP.



posted on Jun, 21 2014 @ 08:02 AM
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originally posted by: cosmonova

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: cosmonova

originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter
While defenders in here are clearer defending the Junta forces is here a little taste on what your defending.

Svoboda Thugs Silence MP Petro Symonenko inside Ukraine's Parliament





a proof of a bright future for Ukraine ahead. The darkness has arrived.
This is what happens when fascists rule the parliament.



Are you using Russian math? I am going to assume so since 35 seats are held by the Svoboda. Please explain how 35 members is a majority when there are a total of 449 seats?

Verkhovna Rada


What's funny is the Russian equivalent to Sbvoboda actually has more seats in the Russian Duma, 56, than Sbvoboda holds in Ukraine.

nice try though.


You do not need math to see that fascist thugs make rules in Ukrainian parliament. Are they minority or majority
is irrelevant. What is relevant is that they make rules who can speak and what can be said, by using violence to suppress a freedom of speech.
If this is happening in parliament it is a scary to even think what is happening outside.


Im confused arent we supposed to be talking about Ukraine? I dont see how Putins oppression of the media is really relevant to this thread. But your right it is scary how much like Nazi Germany the Russians are becoming.



posted on Jun, 21 2014 @ 01:33 PM
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a reply to: cosmonova




You do not need math to see that fascist thugs make rules in Ukrainian parliament. Are they minority or majority
is irrelevant.


Actually your making the same assumptions that other members seem to want to make.

You keep calling the Ukraine gov't facists, yet only a few certain members are the one's that have that ideology...why?

And yes the minority or majority is more than relevant.



posted on Jun, 21 2014 @ 01:36 PM
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a reply to: cosmonova




What is relevant is that they make rules who can speak and what can be said, by using violence to suppress a freedom of speech.


You are talking about Russia correct?



posted on Jun, 21 2014 @ 01:41 PM
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a reply to: cosmonova




By the way why are you posting what is going on in Russian parliament in a thread about events in Ukraine?


My guess would be something like this...

Pot meet Kettle

And again that's just my guess.



posted on Jun, 21 2014 @ 02:43 PM
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In the prior 650 pages there has been discussion at great length regarding the Russia/Ukraine situation.
As such, and pending further developments, this thread has run its course.

**Thread closed**




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